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TheMercenary 07-29-2009 11:01 PM
More failed promises.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

Shawnee123 07-29-2009 11:02 PM
Oh then, Merc...what are YOU doing to change things, besides posting articles all the time?

Are you happy and comfortable with yourself? Are you true to YOU every day? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. What are you doing to get things done?

monster 07-29-2009 11:02 PM
I don't read dana'a question as pertaining to a particular president. I understood "(regardless of who is in power), how far can you go when mocking the president? At what point will you get thrown in jail?"

but maybe i'm nuts

TheMercenary 07-29-2009 11:02 PM
"We will close GITMO by December of 2009!"

Fail. He can't do it.

TheMercenary 07-29-2009 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 585088)
Oh then, Merc...what are YOU doing to change things?

Are you happy and comfortable with yourself? Are you true to YOU every day? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. What are you doing to get things done?
This has nothing to do with me. This has everything to do with Obama and what he promised the American public.

Shawnee123 07-29-2009 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 585084)
Bush maintained that protecting the nation from terrorist threats, by whatever means necessary, was best for our country, and then determined unilaterally, ignoring the two other co-equal branches of government, that those means he used to do so were within his Constitutional powers.

I cant agree with that and I dont believe that is what the framers of the Constitution had in mind.

I agree.

TheMercenary 07-29-2009 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redux (Post 585084)
Bush maintained that protecting the nation from terrorist threats, by whatever means necessary, was best for our country, and then determined unilaterally, ignoring the two other co-equal branches of government, that those means he used to do so were within his Constitutional powers.

I cant agree with that and I dont believe that is what the framers of the Constitution had in mind..even in times of a national crisis, real or manufactured.
This whole statement is comical on so many levels.

Shawnee123 07-29-2009 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 585091)
This has nothing to do with me. This has everything to do with Obama and what he promised the American public.
Read my lips, no new Gitmo.

It's a far sight better at attempting to live up to campaign promises than I've seen in my lifetime...there are obstacles. You seriously don't see that?

Shawnee123 07-29-2009 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 585094)
This whole statement is comical on so many levels.
That is always your first and best response. Read: useless.

Shawnee123 07-29-2009 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by monster (Post 585089)
I don't read dana'a question as pertaining to a particular president. I understood "(regardless of who is in power), how far can you go when mocking the president? At what point will you get thrown in jail?"

but maybe i'm nuts
Well yeah. :blush:

But I'm guessing dana likes the political discourse she has prompted. :)

TheMercenary 07-29-2009 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 585095)
Read my lips, no new Gitmo.

It's a far sight better at attempting to live up to campaign promises than I've seen in my lifetime...there are obstacles. You seriously don't see that?
I see that he promised to close it by Dec. And I fully support it. If he does not he fails.

"there are obstacles"? No shit? So you are willing to give him a pass but not Bush? Fuck that, if it is not closed by Dec, as he promised, all the blame rests on him. Completely.

TheMercenary 07-29-2009 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 585096)
That is always your first and best response. Read: useless.
I agree. 99% of everything Redux posts is quite useless.

Shawnee123 07-29-2009 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 585098)
I see that he promised to close it by Dec. And I fully support it. If he does not he fails.

"there are obstacles"? No shit? So you are willing to give him a pass but not Bush? Fuck that, if it is not closed by Dec, as he promised, all the blame rests on him. Completely.
You never address anything that doesn't jibe with your viewpoint. I don't have to say it again, you'll just ignore it anyway.

Aliantha 07-29-2009 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by monster (Post 585089)
I don't read dana'a question as pertaining to a particular president. I understood "(regardless of who is in power), how far can you go when mocking the president? At what point will you get thrown in jail?"

but maybe i'm nuts

I agree. I don't think this thread was meant to discuss individuals, but more a comentary about the office of pres.

Over here you can pretty much say anything you like about the PM, but then, we have a very similar set up as the UK atm.

TheMercenary 07-29-2009 11:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 585101)
You never address anything that doesn't jibe with your viewpoint. I don't have to say it again, you'll just ignore it anyway.
Oh, good point.

No different from how I am treated, eh?

yea, how about that?


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