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john bainz 11-24-2009 05:45 AM

Oh...
 
I see... ... ... ... ... ..
Ehmmmmm... ... ...... ... Well... ...

How about telling me what you remember about what you wote?

Aliantha 11-24-2009 05:48 AM

What Dana says is true, and there's heaps of info out there about it John. Much better if you look it up yourself if you're really that interested.

Just a further note though. There are some who hold the belief that insufficient or excessive amounts of male or female hormones at the stage where the sex of the child is determined is what leads to homosexuality and why many gay or transexual people claim that they just feel the way they do and it's not a choice.

DanaC 11-24-2009 05:54 AM

Fetuses don't actually start as 'female'. Zygotes start with a chromosonal gender. The fetus then develops along what appears to be female lines for a few weeks, with both 'male' and 'female' fetuses showing 'ovaries'. When the fetus is exposed to testosterone (I think around week 8), the 'male' changes, with the 'ovaries' descending and developing into testes. The external genitalia also changes, with male developing a penis. In some rare cases, a 'male' zygote will develop into a fetus which is immune to testosterone. In those cases, the fetus never goes through that development from female looking physiology to male. The testes remain in the place where a female's ovaries are, and the penis never develops. They appear to all intents and purposes female. But, the 'ovaries' really are testes. And they are still chromosomally male.

BrianR 11-24-2009 08:56 AM

Or, to put it more simply, some get the upgrade package and some don't. Like Dells.

john bainz 11-24-2009 09:19 AM

Wow!
 
Thanks guys, now I also know about... stuff.

"The testes remain in the place where a female's ovaries are, and the penis never develops. They appear to all intents and purposes female. But, the 'ovaries' really are testes. And they are still chromosomally male."

-Would you say someone like Caster Semenya would be a perfect example of this?


"Just a further note though. There are some who hold the belief that insufficient or excessive amounts of male or female hormones at the stage where the sex of the child is determined is what leads to homosexuality and why many gay or transexual people claim that they just feel the way they do and it's not a choice."

-This is new to me I must say...

Undertoad 11-24-2009 09:47 AM

It's been determined that younger brothers of brothers have a higher chance of being gay. It's thought that the first male through the womb sets up some chemistry that the second male is affected by.

Spexxvet 11-24-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 611425)
It's been determined that younger brothers of brothers have a higher chance of being gay. It's thought that the first male through the womb sets up some chemistry that the second male is affected by.

No, it's that older brothers always call their younger brothers pussy, fag, baby, etc., giving them a complex.

jujuwwhite 11-24-2009 09:55 AM

That doesn't make any sense to me because that's like saying that because I was a very big "tom boy" growing up that I have a stronger urge to be a lesbian. And that my friends, is no where near the truth because if I could reach my own with my mouth, I would go on welfare and stay home all day but i have No desire to be near another woman's 'pot of gold' LoL

classicman 11-24-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 611427)
No, it's that older brothers always call their younger brothers pussy, fag, baby, etc., giving them a complex.

That what happened to you?

BrianR 11-24-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john bainz (Post 611411)
"Just a further note though. There are some who hold the belief that insufficient or excessive amounts of male or female hormones at the stage where the sex of the child is determined is what leads to homosexuality and why many gay or transexual people claim that they just feel the way they do and it's not a choice."

-This is new to me I must say...

It has been shown that transsexual persons have a brain difference that, for instance, in a MTF transsexual, there is a certain area in their brains that is underdeveloped in females and MTFs but developed in males. And vice-versa.

Of course, this isn't true for all and a lot more study is needed but there may one day be a genetic test for a predisposition towards transsexualism or possibly even homosexuality.

I have the study somewhere...

john bainz 11-24-2009 11:07 PM

You know what...
 
I think this is all just so THE BIG GUY can be entertained (and from time to time laugh his ass off at us) and keep things interresting down here.:folks:

ZenGum 11-25-2009 06:11 AM

He could just tickle people with his noodly appendages.

Griff 11-25-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 611341)
Fetuses don't actually start as 'female'. Zygotes start with a chromosonal gender. The fetus then develops along what appears to be female lines for a few weeks, with both 'male' and 'female' fetuses showing 'ovaries'. When the fetus is exposed to testosterone (I think around week 8), the 'male' changes, with the 'ovaries' descending and developing into testes. The external genitalia also changes, with male developing a penis. In some rare cases, a 'male' zygote will develop into a fetus which is immune to testosterone. In those cases, the fetus never goes through that development from female looking physiology to male. The testes remain in the place where a female's ovaries are, and the penis never develops. They appear to all intents and purposes female. But, the 'ovaries' really are testes. And they are still chromosomally male.

Where is the part where He takes the rib?

DanaC 11-25-2009 09:57 AM

Just prior to conception, when they're at the restaurant.

Griff 11-25-2009 09:59 AM

Ah, just before the tequilla. Got it.


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