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Madman 01-26-2010 07:44 AM

No. Fat people are still one (1) person. They purchase a ticket for one (1) person. Personally, I'd like to see a class action lawsuit suing the shit out of every single airline on the planet that condone this type of greedy bullshit.

They already have us squeezed in like sardines. I'm 6'4, 225 lbs. I always fly coach, take an isle seat and sit with my legs in the isle. I'd like to see them try to make me buy two tickets because I'm too tall. There'd be a lawsuit slapped on their ass faster than they could say "we'll settle out of court."

No, no, no, no and no. Fat people are still one (1) person.
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Just like charging $20.00 a bag. That just reeks of greed. The only smart one out there that I know of is Southwest Airlines.

glatt 01-26-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Madman (Post 629998)
They already have us squeezed in like sardines. I'm 6'4

Only the tall and fat people are squeezed in like sardines. Short skinny people have plenty of room. It's simple geometry.

SamIam 01-26-2010 08:37 AM

Maybe we should just send children on business trips.

Clodfobble 01-26-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Madman
They already have us squeezed in like sardines.

They are more than capable of ordering planes from Boeing with fewer and larger seats installed. But then, the tickets would cost more, and we'd all just be subsidizing the people who would have needed two seats. Buy one (1) first-class ticket if you're that big.

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Originally Posted by Madman
The only smart one out there that I know of is Southwest Airlines.

They run their business well, to be sure. But you'd better believe their coach seats are just as small as the rest.

Madman 01-26-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 630002)
Only the tall and fat people are squeezed in like sardines. Short skinny people have plenty of room. It's simple geometry.

Braggart. ;)

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 630013)
They are more than capable of ordering planes from Boeing with fewer and larger seats installed. But then, the tickets would cost more, and we'd all just be subsidizing the people who would have needed two seats. Buy one (1) first-class ticket if you're that big.

They run their business well, to be sure. But you'd better believe their coach seats are just as small as the rest.

First class is expensive. I flew my mother first class about three years ago to visit her grand daughter. I paid just over $900 for first class in a 3-hour flight. It would've cost $300 for coach. And they still only gave her a bag of peanuts and a soda - just like coach. All she got was a bigger seat for $600 more bucks.

monster 01-26-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 629960)
You're wrong there should be a fairy tax

poofterist.

monster 01-26-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 630013)
They are more than capable of ordering planes from Boeing with fewer and larger seats installed. But then, the tickets would cost more, and we'd all just be subsidizing the people who would have needed two seats. Buy one (1) first-class ticket if you're that big.

Why can't they build planes with a couple of rows of "husky" seats -4 seats in place of 5, 4 rows instead of 5 -16 seats instead of 25, travellers pay$480 instead of $300, travellers who can't fit in a regular seat must pay for one of these.

Same as clothes. You need bigger clothes, it uses more cloth, costs more money. No amount of fairness is going to squeeze Big Brenda into a size 2.

DanaC 01-26-2010 09:55 AM

Makes sense to have that option. It seems silly to have only first class as the option available to bigger people. Apart from anything else, the number of people who would use/need that option is growing (no pun intended) so the airlines are missing a trick: pissing off a significant proportion of their prospective customer base.

glatt 01-26-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 630046)
Why can't they build planes with a couple of rows of "husky" seats -4 seats in place of 5, 4 rows instead of 5 -16 seats instead of 25, travellers pay$480 instead of $300, travellers who can't fit in a regular seat must pay for one of these.

Don't they already do that, and call it first class, and charge 5 times the coach rate?

Clodfobble 01-26-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by monster
Why can't they build planes with a couple of rows of "husky" seats -4 seats in place of 5, 4 rows instead of 5 -16 seats instead of 25, travellers pay$480 instead of $300, travellers who can't fit in a regular seat must pay for one of these.

Same as clothes. You need bigger clothes, it uses more cloth, costs more money. No amount of fairness is going to squeeze Big Brenda into a size 2.

Like glatt said, they do that and they call it first class. The problem is your 4-to-5 switch doesn't really do much: an airline seat is maybe 18 inches across? So in a more spacious row of 4 seats, each seat is only getting an extra 4 inches. That's not gonna help Tubby McLardass a whole bunch. Same with the extra space in the front, it's only going to be a few inches.

First class generally has 3 rows 4 seats across, where in coach they could have fit 5 rows 6 across. So you've gone from 30 seats to 12, and not surprisingly, they charge somewhere between 2 and 3 times the price depending on the demand in that flight for the first class seats. Seems perfectly fair to me.

jinx 01-26-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 630002)
Only the tall and fat people are squeezed in like sardines. Short skinny people have plenty of room. It's simple geometry.

I don't have plenty of room, I feel totally squeezed in, I don't know how people any larger can stand it.
If it weren't so awful to fly, I might do it more often.

Clodfobble 01-26-2010 10:29 AM

You could always fly JetBlue. Of course, like everything better, it's also more expensive.

classicman 01-26-2010 11:58 AM

I'm getting Deja Vu reading this . . . Did we already do this somewhere?

For the record - I agree that if you are taking up space equal to 2 seats (for whatever reason) then you should pay for both. If you stick out like the guy in the pic from the original post - You shouldn't be there at all. Take a barge or something. Thats past inconvenience, thats outright dangerous.

glatt 01-26-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 630056)
I don't have plenty of room, I feel totally squeezed in, I don't know how people any larger can stand it.

That's kinda my point. Short small people have absolutely no idea how good they have it.

Pico and ME 01-26-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 630056)
I don't have plenty of room, I feel totally squeezed in, I don't know how people any larger can stand it.
If it weren't so awful to fly, I might do it more often.

I agree. The last time I flew the seat rows were so close together that I could not lean over enough to reach for my purse on the floor. I had to hook it with my foot and bring it up to my hand. Im 5ft and 110 pounds.


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