Originally Posted by tw (Post 658112)

The church has no say in a relationship between a doctor and his patients. The pupose of a hospital says so. The church is not even a religion- despite church officials who remain in denial. The church is only a consultant, advisor, or agent in this relationship - a religion. The church has no right dictating religion. It can only advise. And it must conform to reality that includes the law and the purpose of a hospital.

What happens in a relationship between you and your GM stock? Anything Goldman Sachs does to subvert your relationship makes Goldman Sachs a legal violator. Same applies to the Church. Church can advise. Anything it does to subvert the religions of a doctor or patient (should) make the church legally criminal. Church has no right to impose a relationship between the doctor and his patient. Does not even have the right to impose a relationship between any person and his god. That is the Church trying to subvert the laws, AMA, other responsible organization, and the relationship between a person and his god.

But the Bishop is about feelings - screw responsibility. His emotions are hurt. Too bad. The hospital administrator's job is first and foremost to the doctor and patient - in a logical manner. No religion or church morality has any standing in that relationship. By interfering, the church should be sued. Only question: should it be a criminal or civil lawsuit.

Unfortunately, too many people do not understand this - even find acceptable church doctrine that orders American law makers to change American laws according to church doctrine. Shame on them - which even explains why the Church all but endorsed pedophilia.

And, BTW, I am being easy on the Catholic Church – because they still will not excommunicate me. Apparently you don’t get excommunicated according to what god knows. You only get excommunicated because management is emotionally upset. Or does god talk to the bishop?

Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 658123)

Really? I thought you were atheist.

Rather, say that a lot of problems are caused by people doing stupid shit in the name of God.

Originally Posted by Pie (Post 658118)

85% of all problems are caused by god.

Originally Posted by tw (Post 658225)

When people do things in vain, are they taking god's name in vain. There's a commandment for that.

Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 658138)

Excellent point!

Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 658143)

I haven't read the article, but I thought it was interesting, under the circumstances, that her religious order is called the Sisters of Mercy.