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ZenGum 08-19-2010 08:39 PM

I have a rule against buying anything that was caught in the Mediterranean. The med is an evaporating sea - more evaporates from it than flows in from rivers, so there is a steady inflow through the Straights of Gibraltar. So all the contaminants from the Rhone, Danube, Volga and Nile (i.e. most of the crap from former soviet states), as well as things added directly to the sea (lead from boat paint, radioactive waste dumped illegally by the mafia etc etc) has no where to go and gradually concentrates.

The open ocean is better, but frankly, the whole damn planet is polluted and the best we can do is choose the less polluted food sources. Or be like Griff, but I hate goats.

squirell nutkin 08-19-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 677595)
I don't eat fish, Ive never really liked it. Tuna's about it usually. However, I keep thinking that it would be a good idea to incorporate more of it into my diet for health reasons, but then I see this kind of report and I just shake my head. I think fish is one of the more contaminated foods around nowadays.

That's pretty funny, I've eliminated about 95% of fish from my diet for health reasons.

HungLikeJesus 08-19-2010 09:31 PM

The best fish comes from McDonald's, doesn't it?

Griff 08-20-2010 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 677623)

The open ocean is better, but frankly, the whole damn planet is polluted and the best we can do is choose the less polluted food sources. Or be like Griff, but I hate goats.

It is easier to cut their throats if you hate them.

Pico and ME 08-20-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 677618)
I love seafood, all of it, but I've cut wayyy back on it... as much or more so than beef. I don't buy either for home consumption anymore.

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Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 677624)
That's pretty funny, I've eliminated about 95% of fish from my diet for health reasons.

Just goes to show how far out of the loop I am. I've always seen diets recommending fish as a good source of lean protein and felt badly that I resisted because I didn't like it. Now, not so much.

xoxoxoBruce 08-20-2010 06:53 AM

It still is, you just have to be more selective where it comes from. We farm a fair amount of fish in this country.

classicman 08-20-2010 09:03 AM

There was a great discussion on NPR yesterday about fish farming.
There are some issues with salmon as they are being farmed too close (so says the interviewee) to the wild salmon and there is a great risk of transference of infection, disease ....

They also discussed some things about Catfish and mentioned a couple different names from overseas. Asia, I believe. They are basically catfish, but the commercial fish lobby fought them on the use of the name "catfish" here in the US so they are called something else. One was their Latin name ... can't remember.
He did say that fish farming, specifically those that are NOT carnivores are tyhe safest/best way to go.

squirell nutkin 08-20-2010 07:45 PM

Here's a great TED lecture on fish and fish farming by Dan Barber:
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_barber_...th_a_fish.html

Aliantha 08-21-2010 05:28 PM

If you've ever seen the ponds they farm the catfish in in Asia, you'd never eat it.

Just eat wild caught deep sea fish and you'll be better off. Most pollutants stay pretty close to the surface.

classicman 08-21-2010 08:02 PM

That's a great point Ali. For the past decade or so, I rarely eat any seafood that I or someone I know personally hasn't caught.

xoxoxoBruce 08-21-2010 10:17 PM

That's what the OP was about, Vietnam ponds. If we don't use the pond farmed fish we grow here, we won't be eating anything soon. The rate we are taking fish is unsustainable for many types.

richlevy 08-22-2010 11:56 AM

Theres a similar warning for US shellfish. One industry practice is to harvest shellfish from contaminated waters and them park them in cleaner waters to decontaminate.

The difference in US inspection between meat/poultry and fish/seafood is mind-boggling. If seafood were held to the same standards as meat and poultry, we'd be having a recall a day.


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