We're still keeping Oregon off limits for the Californians.
Come visit, spend your money, but then go home.

And I disagree with Ft3, the US is not going to hell in an hand basket.
It's the 24/7 news cycle where you just keep getting pounded with talking-heads
to fill their dead air time.
So the conservatives step in to tell you how everything is bad and getting worse.

So I'm staying where I am, and being very optimistic.

Canada, but I'd have to relocate it to the tropics.


Changed my mind. Jamaica. Ganja, warm, beaches.

Some clarifications:
No, this isn't a fantasy trip, you have to up and move with whatever cash you've saved, whatever skills you have and start a new life. The only fantastic part about it is that regardless of your age or skills any country will welcome you. In reality, most countries don't want you unless you can provide a much needed skill, or are young enough to be useful to your new country. Most countries aren't really open to 50 year old dishwashers immigrating.

And lamplighter, while I agree that listening to the news gives one a truly distorted view of what is really going on, I'm betting you are not looking for work right now and have a fairly reliable job or retirement provisions. The county I live in was recently chastised by Appalachia for being unfairly compared to it. As it happens, Appalachia's standard of living is much greater than Washington County's.

And that is one of the things Glatt point to. The tourist experience is not at all like living somewhere, particularly if you have to earn a living and negotiate their laws.

I would love to have my very own tropical island. One that is diverse in flora and fauna, and that is also deep enough for protection against hurricanes. A (not to high) mountain in the middle would be perfect. I would definitely bring my husband along so that he could hunt the fauna, while I harvest the flora.

No, you may not. The flora is off limits.

Well that cinches it...YOU are not invited.

Sure you have... Texas. :haha:

You must be my guest when you visit.

I don't watch the news, but I do see quite a few people with 'I'm homeless' signs.

I would like to live in Canada just because I like the people. It's too damn cold though.

Heh, sorry, my best child-hood friend has dibs. She has a bedroom just for me (as soon as she tosses out her MIL's stuff).

Heaven! :D Oh but wait, I'd have to die first, huh. :haha:

wow, way to be a total buzz kill. I guess that limits my options then to moving to a different county in northern WI, away from all the familiar freaks but surrounded by similar ones, where my physical condition would almost guarantee me 3rd shift janitorial work at the company of my choosing.

Other wise I'd take my savings, supplemented with a 2 month high risk high reward crime spree, and move to the place where they filmed the Shire, I'd buy all the hobbit houses, and live there, alone.

I'd probably get along anywhere in the British Isles. But I've actually been to Scotland, so I'd probably give that a shot. I found Edinburgh to be very pleasant. I've even driven a stick shift there. :eek: So I'm pretty good to go.

Back in 1994, I seriously considered staying in Argentina as a permanent move and got a fair way through the negotiation of the visa side of things while living on $400 US a month which was the wage I was earning. A couple of brushes with immigration (one at the border post in the middle of the Andes) and the tax department as well as the fact that my degree wouldn't be recognised made me decide that perhaps Oz wasn't so bad after all.

I'll be in Edinburgh tomorrow Pete, I'll take a picture for you.