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zippyt 12-31-2010 11:00 PM


Gravdigr 01-02-2011 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 702322)
Wait a minute, this useless drag on society has been mooching off the state like forever. Then some underpaid, overworked employee makes one little boo boo, and now this parasite is entitled to get a shitload more money from the taxpayers, that he can't do anything with because he's not fit for public.
Where's the soylent green truck when ya need it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 702513)
Or living under a bridge. :(

If you ever find yourself in either situation, I hope someone helps you.

Because no one helped me.

Lamplighter 01-13-2011 04:47 PM

guilty within reason doubt ?
 
Yesterday I learned a man was just found guilty of a sexual offense against a young boy.
Sentencing will be in a couple of weeks, and he faces several years in prison.

He is well known and had a good reputation for his civic services
The particular event took place more than 10 years ago
His arrest and trial were widely publicized throughout the area
No other complaints have came forward from other children or adults

My surprise was the the jury verdict was 11 to 1.

Is not that one jury-person's "NO" vote a de facto statement that
the prosecution did not prove guilt conclusively, and there is still
reasonable doubt ?

Thinking beyond this man's case...
I did not know that when a person's liberty is at risk,
a guilty verdict could be brought even if the jury is not unanimous.
Is it a simple majority (7-5), a super-majority (8-4), or some other magic number ?

monster 01-13-2011 09:45 PM

Nope, that's not reasonable doubt in my mind. Unanimous is unrealistic. I doubt it's that hard to nobble one jury member, and I'm sure as hell certain that one wacko with a weird agenda could fake it through jury selection.

monster 01-13-2011 09:47 PM

I seem to think that -in the uk- the judge can instruct the jury as to what majority they require for each case...... I have no idea if that's the case here.

Happy Monkey 01-21-2011 05:32 PM

Criminal trials in the US require a unanimous verdict.

Lamplighter 01-21-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 707187)
Criminal trials in the US require a unanimous verdict.

That's my problem with this verdict... It's from a Court here in Oregon !


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