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Clodfobble 11-02-2011 05:17 PM

"Doesn't actually contain" isn't the same as "secretly contains." Transglutinamase (aka the meat glue featured in the video) is involved in the autoimmune reaction to gluten, and this is why my kids have to eat organic, un-fucked-with meat. But in fairness to your point, they also can't eat white chocolate, red licorice, or coke either.

HungLikeJesus 11-02-2011 05:49 PM

I eat hotdogs, sausages, chicken tenders and McDonald's fish filet (with extra anti-foaming agent!), so I can't really object to meat glue.

Aliantha 11-02-2011 05:53 PM

I have to say, I don't watch that TV show because it's just a running joke as far as actually providing worthwhile journalism, so I'll have to do a bit more research into this. As mentioned previously, things like chicken nuggets and rolls of ham etc use stuff like this, and if you didn't figure that out before this article, you haven't been putting as much thought into what you're eating as you have been putting in your mouth, but it's news to me about the steaks.

I'll be interested to see what turns up.

Stay tuned. ;)

Spexxvet 11-02-2011 06:04 PM

When I was in first grade, the girls next to me would eat white paste. She ate her boogies, too.

Aliantha 11-02-2011 06:10 PM

Here's an interesting article which refutes the TT claims one by one and well worth the read if you took the time to watch the original.

I'm still interested to find out about the producers of these types of steak and where the market is.

Aliantha 11-02-2011 06:22 PM

The main thing I find hard to swallow about the OP is that they don't name any particular producer of glued steaks and offer them a chance to refute or explain these claims. They've basically done a lab test with one butcher (and definitely far from the only butcher in Oz) that doesn't use the product. In fact, I don't recall ever seeing glued meat in a butcher shop, and I honestly believe I know enough about butchered meat to tell the difference after having watched and participated in enough farm yard butchering jobs to have a good idea about it all.

I don't believe the practice is as widespread as the OP would have us believe, but i do have a feeling that it might be a product used specifically for export beef.

Really, consumers need to educate themselves on what they're eating and what it should look, taste and feel like. The same thing happens with seafood. People don't know enough about what they're eating to realise they're eating nile perch dressed up as barramundi. Half the bloody chefs don't know the difference either.

Still, there's a bit more info for me to look at yet.

HungLikeJesus 11-02-2011 06:36 PM

That was an interesting and well-written article. Even the comments were good.

Aliantha 11-02-2011 06:36 PM

Here's another article from the US. It has an interesting convo about the American Revolution and it's links to beef consumption at the bottom too. lol

Aliantha 11-02-2011 06:47 PM

So, after just one hour of informing myself about this particular product, I am once again irritated with the irresponsible journalism of TT and the issues it causes between people who choose to be informed, and those who choose to swallow whatever bullshit appears on TV (or the internet).

It's not that the product is that great or something I'd choose to eat, but as has been mentioned, it's used to lots of other things besides meat bits being stuck together as a deception, and of course, that might be a problem if you don't know to ask about it or don't know what your meat should look like on the plate, but if you ask and they tell you, then where's the issue.

When was the last time you ate a chicken nugget or some pressed ham or even spam! I guess you get what you pay for (in general) and if you get ripped off and you know it, then make a fuss.

classicman 11-02-2011 08:07 PM

My guess is that the market is the restaurants.

Aliantha 11-02-2011 08:12 PM

I'm sure you're right classic, but I can't think of a restaurant I'd go to that would sell crap like that. I really don't think I've ever had a rib fillet that wasn't a rib fillet.

classicman 11-02-2011 08:13 PM

Great counterpoint.

Quote:

Transglutaminase (TG) –aka meat glue, the stuff that allows you to bond proteins together –has been taking a pounding in the blogosphere recently and, as a proponent of the enzyme, so have I.
The other guy is blatantly against it.

classicman 11-02-2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 769693)
I really don't think I've ever had a rib fillet that wasn't a rib fillet.


How would you know. I think that is the point.

Aliantha 11-02-2011 08:31 PM

I think I'd know because i know what one is supposed to look like. What the formation of the meat is. Where the fatty bits should be and the cartilage etc.

ZenGum 11-03-2011 01:51 AM

I was going to watch that video later, until Ali pointed out it is from Today Tonight.

What they do to facts if far, far worse that what they claim is done to meat!

Thanks for the research Ali, you've saved me the time and annoyance.


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