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infinite monkey 12-22-2011 02:18 PM

Yes, and he underestimates our capability to feel the love that christmas is supposed to represent. We don't have to believe in santa or jesus to understand the heart of humanity.

DanaC 12-22-2011 02:21 PM

Jesus = Santa and his elves

That's what I'm taking away from this.

classicman 12-22-2011 02:40 PM

But Santa doesn't look like Jesus and who exactly are the elves again?
Is it Moses and Joshua and and and??? Inquiring minds NEED to know.

HungLikeJesus 12-22-2011 02:50 PM

Imagine Jesus got older and put on some weight.

JBKlyde 12-22-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

So you're saying that Jesus is just Santa for adults?

NO... Santa Is Jesus for Children.

DanaC 12-22-2011 03:27 PM

Santa is a SFW Jesus?

JBKlyde 12-22-2011 03:35 PM

What is "SFW"??

BigV 12-22-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 782070)
What is the meaning of Christmas? Admiral Nichols White Beard who over sees the North Atlantic Polar Regions is quoted as Saying. That Christ Must Prevail. Dose it really make sense to lie to children about Santa and Elves just for the sake of presents and holiday Cheer.

What is the meaning of Christmas? There are many meanings, as recent discussions in other places have taught, context matters. Everyone here, you and I included, have some meaning associated with Christmas. We probably have multiple meanings, multiple associations, some current, some discarded.

For me, Christmas has a lot of different meanings. When I was a child, it was about the presents, and a marker for a LOOOONNNNG year. Gosh, Christmas will NEVER get here, I moaned at Halloween. Needless to say, this is not what Christmas means to me anymore. Partly because October to December isn't such a big slice of my lifetime anymore, and partly because Christmas practically butts up against Halloween anyhow. The presents are still part of the meaning of Christmas, but I'm a net giver now in contrast to my net receiver status as a child. More change.

The spiritual and religious perspectives I've held throughout my life have changed, naturally those elements of the meaning of Christmas have also changed. Like Griff, I no longer have a religious experience of Christmas, though many around me do, and I share their Christmas holiday respectfully.

Context, that's what provides the meaning of Christmas.

sexobon 12-22-2011 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 782303)
Jesus = Santa and his elves

That's what I'm taking away from this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 782313)
NO... Santa Is Jesus for Children.

Santa is Jesus for Children as Jesus is God for adults, a medium of understanding for their level of comprehension. The parents who let their children believe in Santa are just following the example laid down by their heavenly Father who let them believe in Jesus. JBKlyde poo poos Santa because he doesn't like it when God works in ways that he doesn't understand (i.e. mysterious ways). People like that are known as Faux Christians.

JBKlyde 12-23-2011 11:11 AM

you just had to find a reason to try an make a fool out of me didn't you..

JBKlyde 12-23-2011 08:23 PM

this is what Christmas means to me..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbdvo019mgM

BigV 12-23-2011 10:47 PM

Merry Christmas JBKlyde!

JBKlyde 12-24-2011 11:35 AM

Merry Christmas to you to Big V

infinite monkey 12-24-2011 11:45 AM

JBK, I meant to say this earlier but I was wallowing in self-pity:

Merry Christmas, whatever it means to you. You have to know that we're jokesters, but it is nothing personal towards you.

I don't always understand, but I'm glad you're here and posting.

So have a wonderful holiday, OK? :)

HungLikeJesus 12-24-2011 11:59 AM

We have a mouse that I need to take for a ride. Since it's Xmas Eve and 10 degrees and there's still two feet of snow on the ground I decided he can stay in the house for a while.

I just gave him a piece of a Xmas cookie.


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