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Lamplighter 04-03-2015 09:09 AM

So what do the double red lines along the curb mean - no parking ?

Carruthers 04-03-2015 09:41 AM

From the Highway Code.

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Red lines are used on some roads instead of yellow lines. In London the double and single red lines
used on Red Routes indicate that stopping to park, load/unload or to board and alight from a vehicle
(except for a licensed taxi or if you hold a Blue Badge) is prohibited. The red lines apply to the
carriageway, pavement and verge. The times that the red line prohibitions apply are shown on nearby
signs, but the double red line ALWAYS means no stopping at any time. On Red Routes you may stop
to park, load/unload in specially marked boxes and adjacent signs specify the times and purposes
and duration allowed. A box MARKED IN RED indicates that it may only be available for the purpose
specified for part of the day (eg between busy peak periods). A box MARKED IN WHITE means that it
is available throughout the day.
RED AND SINGLE YELLOW LINES CAN ONLY GIVE A GUIDE TO THE RESTRICTIONS AND
CONTROLS IN FORCE AND SIGNS, NEARBY OR AT A ZONE ENTRY, MUST BE CONSULTED.
I had to go to the Highway Code for a precise answer as I have never seen double red lines anywhere other than in London and, as I've never driven there, I've never been aware of their precise meaning.

Just a couple of notes:

Yellow lines denote 'waiting' restrictions.

The Blue Badge is a permit issued to disabled persons allowing dispensation from certain parking/stopping regulations.

The pavement (UK) = sidewalk (US).

Carriageway (UK) = pavement (US).

infinite monkey 04-03-2015 09:44 AM

Sooooo, what do the double red lines mean? No parking?

Carruthers 04-03-2015 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 925154)
Sooooo, what do the double red lines mean? No parking?

Yes, and a little bit more:

Quote:

In London the double and single red lines used on Red Routes indicate that stopping to park, load/unload or to board and alight from a vehicle
(except for a licensed taxi or if you hold a Blue Badge) is prohibited.

Lamplighter 04-03-2015 11:07 AM

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So many customs !

Boston has some too, and if your family hasn't lived there for at least 3 generations, you're still a newcomer.

Here's another one from Sundae's West Yorkshire post... what do the zagged white lines mean ?

Carruthers 04-03-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 925169)
... what do the zagged white lines mean ?

There are additional rules at pedestrian crossings (crosswalks), popularly known as Zebra Crossings because of the black and white striped surface.

It is forbidden to stop, other than to give way to pedestrians, or pass another vehicle, in between the zig-zag lines.

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Police targeting illegal and dangerous parking on zebra crossing zig-zags

DRIVERS who park illegally and dangerously in Welwyn village are also being targeted by the police.
Pc Ben Satchfield is taking to task delivery drivers and shoppers who leave their cars on the zig-zag lines by the zebra crossing in High Street.

Over the past 18 months, more than 30 motorists have been caught flouting the restrictions.

Most were issued with a £60 fine and three penalty points. Some elected to go to court, but all were found guilty and had to pay the fine, as well as court costs up to £635.

Pc Satchfield said: “This is a neighbourhood priority for my area as it is an issue repeatedly raised.

“The controlled area is to each side of a pedestrian or pelican crossing and vehicles cannot stop or park there. They allow for the safety of pedestrians using the crossing.”
Welwyn Hatfield Times

Lamplighter 04-03-2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

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“The controlled area is to each side of a pedestrian or pelican crossing and vehicles cannot stop or park there. They allow for the safety of pedestrians using the crossing.”
:D Priorities are priorities - pelicans are Number One !

Thx for the interpretations

xoxoxoBruce 04-03-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Carruthers (Post 925146)
Yes, it is permissible to do that but it tends to happen on quieter roads.
The deterrent to doing it on busier roads is that it is a pain in the arse trying to pull out across one lane of traffic coming towards you before joining your 'own' lane.

Wow, that's insane.
Thanks.

Lamplighter 04-03-2015 03:50 PM

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...Most were issued with a £60 fine and three penalty points.
Some elected to go to court, but all were found guilty and had to pay the fine,
as well as court costs up to £635.
...
£635 + £60 = £695 X 1.49 = 1,0280.10($US) + pay to go to court + etc.

That's a major deterrent
... or a significant barrier to keep the riff-raff out of the court system.

Not to mention "3 penalty points" (whatever they are)

But maybe they are like our "3-strikes-and-you're-out" laws here in the US.
Of course, those with 2 strikes sometimes go to extremes trying to avoid that 3rd strike. :jail:

Carruthers 04-03-2015 04:04 PM

Penalty points are imposed on an individual's driving licence and are an additional deterrent to re-offending.
I don't have any personal experience (pauses to polish halo) but broadly speaking offences atract points on a sliding scale of seriousness.
I think that should you be in receipt of six or more points in a space of three years, it results in the suspension of your driving licence.
Of course, to some, these things are but a trivial consideration and can be avoided by the simple expedient of not bothering to qualify for a licence in the first place.

Sundae 04-03-2015 05:04 PM

You are also required to mention any penalty points in job applications.
Most jobs these days require driving, even if it's only to and from work (says the woman who hasn't owned a car for ten years).
It's partly practical - will this person be able to get to and from work?
But also a character judgement - can this person abide by the law of the land?

Admitting to a single 3 point speeding offence wouldn't make any difference of course. Everyone has broken the speed limit at some point. But if you're close to the ban limit it really could affect your prospects.

xoxoxoBruce 04-03-2015 07:35 PM

Most states here have some sort of points system tied to convictions. Oregon has a Driver Improvement Program.

Lamplighter 04-03-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 925232)
Most states here have some sort of points system tied to convictions.
Oregon has a Driver Improvement Program.

My town has one too... 4 points gets you a ticket and your vehicle towed away.

1 point if you're driving a pick up
2 points if you're driving a white pick up
3 points if you're Hispanic driving a white pick up
4 points if you're Hispanic driving a white pick up with a passenger

and then...
-3 points if you're Hispanic driving a white pick up carrying
a lawnmower and leaf blower and orange ear plugs

( I'm almost serious about this :eyebrow: )

lumberjim 06-02-2015 01:18 PM

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I just stumbled upon my own car on street view. I was looking at directions up to State College because I have a seminar there in a couple weeks, and there was a star along my route on google maps. When I hovered over it, it popped up a little window with my mom's address and a picture of her house with my Jeep out in front.

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I think that's kind of cool.

fargon 06-02-2015 01:29 PM

Nice house.


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