The Cellar - Chain email ...

The Cellar (http://cellar.org/index.php)

- Current Events (http://cellar.org/forumdisplay.php?f=4)

- - Chain email ... (http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=26797)

well ... for one thing, they're pilot whales. Dolphins apparently have better press appeal, so they're calling these guys dolphins.

There are over 200,000 of them, and the hunt takes out around 200 or so. Isn't that like 0.1%?

What's the problem with killing all those sharks? Those kids are brave.

whale meat is pretty high up on the menu in most of the northern European countries.

I thought they looked like pilot whales, but really couldn't be arsed looking it up.

Here's an interesting response to this email:

Quote:

The Faroe Islands are not part of Denmark. They have their own parliament.

These are not Calderon Dolphins but Pilot Whales and other cetaceans such as Atlantic White-sided dolphins and Bottle-nosed Whales. In fact, I cannot find anywhere any reference to a Calderon Dolphin species.

In reviewing the figures, the North Atlantic Marine Mammal Commission decided that the percentage of 0.1% of current populations killed was well within sustainable limits.
In fact the number of drives has decreased from a 1709 – 1950 total of 1195 to a 2006 total of 11.

1709! Thats right. This practice has been occuring for 300 years.
Now if indeed this is a cultural practice, think of how long it will take to remove/alter this practice from the islanders lives. And these Faroe Islanders have whale meat and blubber as a staple part of their diets.

I think this is a terrible practice as well – however humans have been rearing and catching and eating meat for thousands of years.

For more information : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling..._Faroe_Islands

Can we compare this to the Taiji Dolphin Massacres?
The well known Sea Shepherd Conservation Society does not mention the Faroe Islands on their site but has extensive information regarding the occurances at the village of Taiji in Southern Japan : http://www.seashepherd.org/dolphins/...-in-taiji.html

Here dolphins are bombared with sound, herded into a bay, covered with nets and killed the next day.
Not only dolphins are herded into the bay, but Pilot Whales as well.

And heres the real kicker : Killing pilot whales violates Japan’s treaty obligations to the International Whaling Commission.

Both practices seem extremely gruesome to a lot of us.
However I believe greater understanding and correctly directed protest is needed – instead of incorrect mail emails.

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 792362)

These are apparently an endangered species for one.
Kill all the deer you want, there are too effin many of them around here.
Don't really get what you are trying to accomplish.

They aren't endangered, according to Wiki. Theres something like a half million of the two types, they take a couple thousand in the Faroes and the Japs take less than 500, each year.

Pilot whales are dolphins.

Pilot whales are dolphins.

http://earthfirst.com/pilot-whales-b...faroe-islands/

http://marinebio.org/species.asp?id=354

Yeah, not endangered. Those are some gruesome looking pictures I concede. And slaughtering animals is not pretty, wherever it happens, especially in a scale like this and with animals as large as this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhianne (Post 792393)

Pilot whales are dolphins.

Yes.

"Pilot whales are among the largest of the oceanic dolphins, exceeded in size only by the killer whale. They and other large members of the dolphin family are also known as blackfish." - via Wiki.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhianne

Pilot whales are dolphins.

I'd say so too. From Wiki:

Quote:

Pilot whales are among the largest of the oceanic dolphins, exceeded in size only by the killer whale. They and other large members of the dolphin family are also known as blackfish.

But from the oceanic dolphin wiki page:

Quote:

Six of the larger species in the Delphinidae, the Orca and the Pilot, Melon-headed, Pygmy Killer and False Killer Whales, are commonly called whales, rather than dolphins; they are also sometimes collectively known as "blackfish".

But it's a dumb distinction anyway. Animals are animals, it shouldn't factor into the argument over whether (or how) to kill them.

Edit -- Jinx! You owe me a Coke!

Why does Jinx owe you a coke?

...I can't tell if you're really asking... if not, please pretend I'm not about to be a pedantic ass just below this.

so, ah, "Jinx!" is what you say when you and someone else say something at the same time. They "jinxed" you. And the debt of a Coke goes to whoever says "Jinx! You owe me a Coke!" first after the two people say something simultaneously. I dunno, it's just a thing that kids said in the 80s.

Not that I'm advocating this, but blood goes so much further in water/on snow, it's no wonder seal and sea creature hunts are always the subject of the complaints. it looks fucking terrible, but is there more blood lost than in -say- the preparation of Halal meat? It's just that that is a lot tidier, mesuspects.

Or are we shocked by which species is being eaten here? Because where do we draw the line there? How intelligent is inedible? How shall we test, and can we apply the same test and potential fate to members of the human race? Because many of them are too stoopit to live......

Some pigs are smart

SMRT...

Spiderpig, spiderpig....

Attachment 37109

If intelligence is a measure of what we can eat, I can understand where cannibalism started from.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 792425)

If intelligence is a measure of what we can eat, I can understand where cannibalism started from.

Right.
did you just call me a pussy?