Maybe he was insane, and the pot was an attempt to self medicate. Maybe the insanity caused him to steal the face right off that dude's head. Maybe the pot had nothing to do with it.

Excellent tubing Classic.

It never does...

Oh, come on, people, when was the last time you saw a straight-up pothead do anything more violent than make a macrame wall hanging? Or develop elaborate plans for bettering the world that never get acted upon?

Crackheads, yeah. Junkies, rather less so. Meth-heads, absolutely. Bath salts, for sure. And don't forget our old friend, PCP.

Plain old weed, that's a de-initiator, not an initiator.

It's too bad you have to be born in the U.S. to be President. He could have beat out Romney in the Republican primary.

Pardon me, but WTF is "bath salts" slang for? Speed?

its synthetic, legal, designer speed basically, yeah.

I have, but no one would (want to) believe me.

I believe you, but I also believe it wasn't because of the pot.

I would believe that someone smoked and got violent. What I wouldn't believe was that the weed was the catalyst, as opposed to that person's personality, disordered or not, and their capacity to become violent in the first place.

Which is kind of the lesson learned in the face eating case. Our narrative is to say "some drug made him do that", partly because we don't want to believe that naturally-occurring mental illness can make someone do that. We want to believe that all people act according to their choices, and that bad choices lead to bad behavior, as opposed to the other way around.


eta: ok that was what xob sed in 13 words

but on the other hand, ut, shit like meth and bath salts can induce actual psychotic episodes. sure, someone who's just plain old gentle and meek, going psychotic, will probably not be extremely violent, but they can be. I'd say a guy who'd eat somebody's face would have to be pretty fucking messed up without drugs, but i would certainly think they'd be a fairly possible, if not outright likely, factor.

Yabbut on the list of 100 bad things weed can do to you, sudden violence is... not on the list.

I knew a pre-med guy who did meth in an attempt to get a 4.0 in college. He put in twice the study of his fellow students, and got close to his 4.0. But he got zero recommendations from professors - and thus, did not get into med school. Instead he went to rehab. He was otherwise a pretty good guy! I guess my point is, even with meth, which turns many people psychotic, personality makes a difference.

oh yeah, WEED, totally not ever possibly no way dont believe it for a second. i was responding to

But Tony, every expert knows meth turns you into a psychotic knife wielding father raper... within minutes. How could that dude concentrate on studies and complete college? Do you think maybe the experts only see the people doing meth that were psychotic before they did it?