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xoxoxoBruce 12-18-2015 10:52 PM

Jim Webb, one of Bernie's cheerleaders? That's your source?
The DNC bought the fucked up software from NGP VAN. Through that fucked up software one of Bernie's helpers found he could get into Hillary's files, and did. He was fired by Bernie's group. But the DNC cut Bernie's group's access rather than, or until, the software is fixed. What they're going to do isn't clear. If the DNC was playing fair they'd cut everyone off and fix the software. But I don't see how this is Hillary's group's fault. I'm sure the DNC would rather have Hillary than Bernie since he's not one of them, he's an independent. But that doesn't make the DNC a tool of Hillary.

classicman 12-19-2015 10:42 AM

DWS is a Killary lapdog. Hope that poodle gets shaved.
This is all about Killary and her overwhelming lust for power and control.
How soon some forget. Sad.

classicman 12-19-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 948820)
Snopes is checking what is being said

They don't check everything - that's the point - They CHOOSE to check some far more critically than others. Also, when they cannot disprove something said by one of "their candidates", they use lots of words and then claim its unverifiable or grey or some other bullshit. They all do it. Again, no more credible than Fox nor MSDNC.

xoxoxoBruce 12-19-2015 04:06 PM

They check what they are asked to check in their forum. If they find it unverifiable, all those words they use are saying why.

Griff 12-20-2015 12:06 PM

NGP VAN is a Clinton connected operation.

I started going through the wiki revisions to see what's been dropped.
from 12/19/15
NGP VAN was created in November 2010 by the merger of its two predecessor companies, NGP Software, founded in 1997 by Nathaniel Pearlman, who later served as chief technology officer for Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign,[6] in his attic in Washington, D.C, and Voter Activation Network, founded in 2001 by Mark Sullivan, in his study in Cambridge, Massachusetts.[7]

They left this in.
Its current president and CEO, Stuart Trevelyan, was a veteran of the 1992 Clinton-Gore War Room, providing research, analysis, and whip counts to the Clinton Administration as a member of the White House Office of Legislative Affairs.[5]

Current DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz was co-chair of Hillary's 2008 campaign.

It is good to remember that the parties are private organizations which have gained control of the public elections. These Democrats make the GOP look weirdly democratic.

xoxoxoBruce 12-20-2015 09:13 PM

That's pretty convincing, but you certainly had to go looking to find it. I just couldn't damn her(this time) with the information in the papers, and assume anyone on Bernie's team would blame Hillary if it rained... and vice versa. However there are damn few democrats in Washington who are not connected to the Clintons in some way, and many who are beholdin'.

Griff 12-21-2015 06:29 AM

Bernie's team were not innocent babes in the woods on this but the DNC has been working hard to tamp down non-Hillary Democrats. There are still a lot of registered Dems who think Hillary is inevitable. Keeping them blinkered, I think is her strategy but Bernie had a huge fund-raising day when this latest spat developed so it may not hold up.

xoxoxoBruce 04-12-2016 09:05 AM

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Speaking of damn lies and scumbags...

Happy Monkey 04-21-2016 03:30 PM

Pure mean-spiritedness.


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“Naloxone does not truly save lives; it merely extends them until the next overdose,” LePage wrote, repeating a contention that has caused controversy before. “Creating a situation where an addict has a heroin needle in one hand and a shot of naloxone in the other produces a sense of normalcy and security around heroin use that serves only to perpetuate the cycle of addiction.”

Clodfobble 04-21-2016 04:08 PM

The caption on the photo is pretty funny.

tw 04-22-2016 10:18 AM

View the picture carefully. Who more wants to make that deal?

xoxoxoBruce 04-22-2016 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 958113)

In the same vein(no pun), buprenorphine, this is really sad.
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“Can you fucking believe this?” he says. “This is bible belt shit. This is the notion that addicts are sinners and sinners deserve to go to hell but before they go to hell they deserve to go to jail.”

Happy Monkey 04-22-2016 12:12 PM

I wonder if I can even be outraged anymore; it just makes me sad.

Dr. Zaius 05-14-2016 09:02 AM

So the Washington Post reveals that Trump acted as his own publicist ~25 years ago and writes a story. Totally silly stuff, if true, which it probably is. There's even a recording that sounds like Trump.

But what I don't get is why Trump is denying it. Given the number of things to which Trump has been accused, this is nothing. He could just say "yeah, I did that 25 years ago. I'm my own best publicist, what's the big deal?" and move on. But instead he's stonewalling, denying, and now hanging up on reporters asking him about it.

Weird. :rolleyes:

xoxoxoBruce 05-14-2016 09:57 AM

Distraction? Keep reporters digging on a non-story?


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