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BigV 08-07-2019 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1036603)
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And has something very unreliable - batteries.

How about a mulligan, tw? Would you like to revise and extend your remarks on this point, or will you double down, as the media pundits like to say?

If you won't revise, would you at least provide a cite so we can assess your assertion?

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1036616)
No wire

Correct, and wryly so.

xoxoxoBruce 08-07-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 1036619)
Heh, I view that as a disadvantage, as the wire provides power, and acts as a tether if I ever bump it off the desk.

Agreed. :thumb:

tw 08-08-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 1036624)
How about a mulligan, tw?

Please rewrite sentence that follow so as to be readable.

Meanwhile, why would anyone use a mouse with batteries? Can you answer that simple and relevant question without mumbo jumbo?

Meanwhile, comprehensive hardware diagnostics find such problems quickly with little labor. Only better computers provide them.

fargon 08-08-2019 01:19 PM

My wireless mouse has more features than a corded mouse. I can page forward and back, and I have a button that brings up the start menu. I don't have to worry about shutting it off when I shut down, when my computer goes to sleep it shuts down the mouse. I change my batteries about every 6 months.

Happy Monkey 08-08-2019 01:25 PM

None of that has anything to do with wirelessness. My corded mouse has considerably more features than that, I never change its batteries, and it never would have occurred to me to turn off my mouse separately from the computer.

Happy Monkey 08-08-2019 01:37 PM

But I can think of a couple of practical advantages:

Most laptops have limited USB ports. This is only an advantage if the wireless mouse doesnt use a dongle.

You often move your workspace around, ie switch output between an office monitor and a TV. Though there is a question of range. And if you don't necessarily have mouse surfaces, I can see a greater benefit for a wireless trackball.

If your desktop machine is placed awkwardly compared to the mouse surface, and there's no good way for the cord to reach.

Plus the non-practical but perfectly valid reason: aesthetics. My mom hates the way cords look.

Undertoad 08-08-2019 01:58 PM

For me, cords always get in the way, especially in games. I want to have movements in every direction require the same force; I never want to pull down harder to yank the cord out of a position where it's snagging something. And I don't want to lift the mouse to free a cord. Lives depend on it.

Some gamers have a complicated rig to keep the cord in place. (Google "mouse bungee") Ridiculous. I find the Logitech mice do a good job with battery life and I just charge about once a month, overnight.

BigV 08-08-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1036647)
Please rewrite sentence that follow so as to be readable.

--snip

Ok.

Would you like to revise and extend your remarks on this point, or will you double down, as the media pundits like to say?

If you won't revise, would you at least provide a cite so we can assess your assertion?

tw 08-08-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 1036659)
Would you like to revise and extend your remarks on this point,

Apparently you again do not want to answer for some biased reason.

Fargon demonstrates something unreliable. Batteries fail repeatedly and often. Anything less than 5 years is unreliable. His mouse remains powered because he does not power it off. That may explain premature battery failure.

Those other features are also available on more reliable mice.

Another problem with wireless mice. It sometimes gets lost just like a TV remote.

Meanwhile, comprehensive hardware diagnostics find such problems quickly with little labor. Only better computers provide them. Apparently that is also too hard to comprehend. Or you only want to argue. Which explain now two posts that are vague and irrelevant.

sexobon 08-08-2019 05:04 PM

My wireless mouse also functions as a tv remote, takes pictures, and gives me a close shave. It's a Swiss Army Mouse with built in solar charger for the batteries.

Happy Monkey 08-08-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 1036658)
For me, cords always get in the way, especially in games. I want to have movements in every direction require the same force; I never want to pull down harder to yank the cord out of a position where it's snagging something. And I don't want to lift the mouse to free a cord. Lives depend on it.

hey, I guess I do have the advantage of a hand built computer desk with built-in cord management...


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