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xoxoxoBruce 01-19-2004 06:52 PM

Dead link, TW.:(

elSicomoro 01-19-2004 07:17 PM

Copy and paste the link into your browser, Bruce...it works for me.

tw 01-20-2004 05:27 PM

Link was good. Just not entered properly. Sorry.
us stars hail iraq war whistleblower/

Undertoad 01-21-2004 08:14 AM

Andrew Sullivan continues his disaffection in his look at yesterday's SOTU in The New Republic online. His final paragraph:
Quote:

But, more profound, the president revealed his deep suspicion of human freedom. Yes, he says he supports it. But in every instance--even charitable and religious institutions--he believes that government needs to get involved. He wants to maintain the Patriot Act intact; he wants to extend the war on drugs to steroids; he wants to prevent gay couples from having the ability to form their own families and be treated equally under the law. He suggests not a single government program to be cut. On social issues, he shifted to the hard right: abstinence programs rather than contraception; an assault on gay couples and families; and millions of dollars in order to subject children to mandatory drug testing in schools. This is not Reaganism. It isn't Gingrichism. It's Big Government Moral Conservatism: fiscally liberal and socially conservative. It will please the hard right and the base. And it will alienate libertarians and moderates. It struck me as a speech that comes out of a political cocoon, from a president who doesn't grasp that he is in fact politically vulnerable, and who intends to run not on what he plans for the future but on what he has done in the past. That's a high-risk strategy. We won't know how high a risk until the Democrats produce a nominee.

Griff 01-22-2004 03:39 PM

They're cranking up the government pre-marriage counselling hoo hah even as we speak. His belief in the power of government is breath taking.

dar512 01-22-2004 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Griff
They're cranking up the government pre-marriage counselling hoo hah even as we speak. His belief in the power of government is breath taking.
Geez, I hope the dems come up with a decent candidate.

Happy Monkey 01-22-2004 04:42 PM

Any of them is more decent than Bush. Let's hope the country comes up with a decent electorate.

Undertoad 01-31-2004 09:59 AM

Griff's original question was exactly on time, like he's suddenly clairvoyant. Over the last two weeks, Bush's status seems to have eroded mightily. Kay's WMD soundbites, interest in the D race, a weak SOTU speech, R carping about the spending, a projection that Medicare will be more expensive than they thought. (DUH !!)

By yesterday his approval ratings lost around 10 points in one poll.

Next week they release the budget and this will not stop the bleeding.

elSicomoro 01-31-2004 10:22 AM

Don't forget the economic numbers from earlier this week...they weren't as good as some had hoped.

I'm glad that the Dems are finally making a comeback, but where the FUCK have they been the last 2 years?

And from what I've been seeing and hearing, Clinton is going to play a huge role this time around, unlike 2000.

You can have $130 million in your war chest all you want, but can you beat Bill Clinton?

wolf 01-31-2004 10:42 AM

I'd like to ...

elSicomoro 01-31-2004 10:48 AM

You would be in the minority...the ladies love Clinton...in a non-sexual way as well.

wolf 01-31-2004 10:52 AM

Bill put the final nail in the donkey-shaped coffin of my disillisionment with the democratic party ... I am owed.

Besides, I never found him attractive.

elSicomoro 01-31-2004 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
Bill put the final nail in the donkey-shaped coffin of my disillisionment with the democratic party
How so?

wolf 01-31-2004 11:02 AM

Violation of trust, my boy, myself and the whole of the American people.

That wasn't the only thing, of course. Actually had a lot more to do with years of noticing increases in taxation without increases in service, nonsense like the AWB, support and increase of social welfare programs to the point where the country is about ready to snap, and finally figuring out why so many communist/socialist countries have the word "democratic" in their name and so did the party ...

elSicomoro 01-31-2004 11:07 AM

And yet, you're still registered as a Democrat...


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