HUBRIS BOY!

let's have those original files you offered. looks like we're gonna need em

shit. i just realized that if we go with this old school front, and back as it is, "cellar.org" does not appear.

what to do?

I'd say either add a small .org to the front, or a small cellar.org underneath the current back pattern.

how's about putting the new style cellar.org on the back, below and to the right of the tagline?

And, if that looks unbalanced, move the Undertoad over to the left so that it looks more balanced in a stairstep sort of layout...

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Yeppers , that work for me .

A crude rearrangement on my part, but you get the idea...just a suggestion, but I think it flows better.

I like that one.

the problem i had with doing it that way was that the toad's left hand comes out over the words without obscuring too much to be able to read it if its to the right, when it sits to the left, its tough to read the tag line.....i'll fuck around with it some more.....

ok.....how's this? please...please...please..let this one be ok....

COOL!

sorry the image is so big. i seem to have lost control of my image program's resize capability......just stand back from your monitor :)

Nicely artistic solution, I think. I'll take one!

Thanks for working so hard on this, LJ. You done good.

I thought you did that intentionally, so we could appreciate the fine detail work ...