America, in a technical sense, doesn't have a 'working class' as such ... and I don't mind people of other classes at all, just so long as they are working. I have a great deal of respect, actually, for people who provide service jobs ... whether it's floor mopping, waitressing, or handy-manning.

I went to school for lots of extra years so I don't have to do those things.

I just have a problem with people who could work that don't, and instead suck money out of the system and use public funds to support their drug and alcohol habits, fer instance.

If by "progressive" you mean in terms of setting up a brutal secret police , then I guess you're right. If we had invaded Iran when the Shah was in power we would be making the same accusations against him that we did against Hussein.

It's not a non-answer UT, considering the fuss I heard over frankly, bizarre claims that an amendment allowing foreigners to run for presidency might result in foreign spies becoming president the right to have leaders I think the US might value leaders who aren't primarily beholden to foreign interests as well. Tell me you wouldn't prefer self-rule, hell, the Vietnamese sacrificed millions for it. Secondly, it can't have been that unpopular, after all, it was a people's revolution, just because you love your 'democracy' doesn't mean that's everyone's priority.

So then your answer, which we still must infer, is "yes".

No, the answer is they went from a foreign-controlled despotic regime to a people's revolution that became a despoitic regime with decreasing support. However if the US thinks they'd be welcomed as liberators they've got another thing coming.

Excuse me, could you explain your thinking behind that statement? I see members of the working class all around me. What? Is Colorado just a backward state or something? :confused:

Last time I checked, we sort "classes" in our theoretically classless society by economic achievement (low, middle, upper) rather than by employment category.

We still do have a 'blue collar' and 'white collar' division, although with the huge loss of manufacturing and the rise of low-paying 'service' jobs, wearing a nice shirt and tie does not mean you rise above the working poor.

I think income level pretty much defacto sorts us into working class, management class, professional class, etc. I mean, you seldom see someone who earns six figures working at Taco Bell.

America's Class System (from lowest to highest caste):

musician
writer
teacher
street person/homeless
welfare mom
elderly/disabled living on social security
college student
Walmart Greeter/McDonald's worker
working class stiff
working man's dead
waitress at Denny's
waitress at I-Hop
manager at Denny's/I-Hop/McDonald's
kid with a philosophy degree driving a garbage truck
computer geek
professional with a degree
MBA plotting to out source all of above
Company Executive plotting to outsource MBA
Japanese
Saudi Royal Family
Bill Gates

And people call ME cynical.

I've seen someone who used to make six figures working at Taco Bell, though ...

Downsizing and outsourcing have had their impact.

musician
writer
teacher
street person/homeless
welfare mom
elderly/disabled living on social security
college student
Walmart Greeter/McDonald's worker
Lawyers
working class stiff
working man's dead
Failed entrepreneurs
Hot Dog vendors
Automotive salespeople
waitress at Denny's
waitress at I-Hop
Retail sales
manager at Denny's/I-Hop/McDonald's
kid with a philosophy degree driving a garbage truck
dogs
computer geek
professional with a degree
Plumber, electrician, HVAC
MBA plotting to out source all of above
People who have been on reality shows
General Physicians
Company Executive plotting to outsource MBA
Minor celebrities
Surgeons, CEOs, top athletes
Major celebrities
(Japanese, Saudi Royal Family removed)
P.O.T.U.S.
Bill Gates

Different Story:
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Technically, anti-Semitism can be against Arabs as well as Jews.