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Happy Monkey 12-04-2004 01:09 PM

So you're saying Bush is compulsively hypocritical?

elSicomoro 12-04-2004 01:35 PM

Or he's concerned about Rich's well-being, which is so touching!

Undertoad 12-04-2004 01:51 PM

No. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why this thread, along with all others, has to fork off and be about W. It's almost pathological.

"Hey, this milk went bad." "Damn you George W. Bush!!"

Kitsune 12-04-2004 01:54 PM

No. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why this thread, along with all others, has to fork off and be about W. It's almost pathological.

It should be pretty easy to tell I'm not a fan of the president from my previous threads and I'm even starting to find this really irritating. Sure, Bush isn't helping the economy out, but he's not directly responsible for all of it. I tend to think this happens to be the sum of many different errors and variables, not to mention that media is just now starting to take notice after decades of a faulty/hyped economy.

Happy Monkey 12-04-2004 02:06 PM

Oh, come on. A duck does not get any more sitting than a Bush supporter (not you, UT, the congressman calling for Annan's resignation) saying that Kofi's responsible for what his appointees do.

It's not even a reach to make that connection.

Kitsune 12-04-2004 02:18 PM

Sure, Bush isn't helping the economy out, but he's not directly responsible for all of it.

...and I've managed to completely confuse this thread with the one of the fall of the US dollar.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must return to driving while talking on the phone and eating.

wolf 12-04-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar
The best thing America could do is to completely withdraw from the UN and demand they remove their headquarters from our country.

Holy crap. I agree with radar again.

Actually, that would only be a workable solution if it included disbanding the UN ... I want them out, I want out of them, but if they still exist, they can cause us, as Americans, a whole lot of hassles that our veto power on the security council might prevent.

In the mean time, everyone remember ... those blue hats are really easy to see. Stand out against just about any background, except, perhaps, the bottom of a pool.

richlevy 12-05-2004 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
No. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why this thread, along with all others, has to fork off and be about W. It's almost pathological.

Only that there appears to be a double standard and that we are asking for a level of accountability based on only partial evidence, of the leader of the United Nations, a body which does not directly govern us, that we refuse to apply to our own leader in the face of documented errors, lies, and half-truths.

I'm going to wait until Paul Volcker finishes his work. At least the UN is looking into the issue. Considering how fast investigations into our own government have been shut down or stonewalled lately, I'm surprised we even have the information that we do.

Paul Volcker was one of the smartest men in government service, which might explain why he has nothing directly to do with the current adminstration.

xoxoxoBruce 12-05-2004 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad
No. I just cannot for the life of me figure out why this thread, along with all others, has to fork off and be about W. It's almost pathological.

"Hey, this milk went bad." "Damn you George W. Bush!!"

So that's who messed with my milk. :mad:

Look UT, for better or worse the Sun revolves around W for the moment. He can and often does affect (and effect)much of what happens to the rest of us. But I didn't think he had time to mess with my milk. ;)

richlevy 12-05-2004 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
But I didn't think he had time to mess with my milk. ;)

Well, that depends on what kind of milk we're talking about.

Quote:

The United States is an example of the problem, with no program in place to test breast milk for substances that don't belong in it. Some studies have been done in the United States over the past few decades, but they offer only snapshots of particular regions at a given point in time. More consistent research is needed to demonstrate trends over time and to detect substances that may pose a concern.

More and better research in the United States is easily within the nation's reach, but the absence of a national testing program is a huge barrier. One answer would be for the federal government to take up the challenge, establishing a testing program with dedicated funds for breast-milk monitoring, under the auspices of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Environmental Health Laboratory. That won't happen unless Congress authorizes and appropriates funding, of course, and Congress has shown no particular interest in the issue to date.
Maybe if we can link tainted breast milk to terrorism......

elSicomoro 12-05-2004 06:13 PM

You gotta watch these bastards that are pushing soy milk, too.

Clodfobble 12-05-2004 09:39 PM

Maybe if we can link tainted breast milk to terrorism......

Sadly enough, a couple women actually have been forced to drink from bottles of their own breastmilk to prove it wasn't a toxic substance before taking them on a plane. I don't know if any of them have won their lawsuits yet.

tw 12-05-2004 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richlevy
I'm going to wait until Paul Volcker finishes his work.

And so I asked this question with same intent. No one was going to answer this question because those already so full of accusations (get the lies out before facts arrive) don't even know basic facts.
Quote:

An more honest Lookout123 would have instead asked where is the UN Inspector General. Why is Kofi Annan not asking of him some very embarrassing questions?
It asked Lookout123 about the Inspector General. Why? Lookout123, good extremist soldier, has accusations and does not even know what the Inspector General knew. He does not even know if the Inspector General exists. He just knows that France and Kojo Annan must be guilty.

Also looking forward to that Paul Volcker report.

Any moral person discussing the OFF scandel starts with the most likely suspect. The short list is topped by Benon Sevan - and neither Kojo Annan, France, Germany, nor Russia are mentioned.

It is what Lookout123 - master propagandist - does. Put out disinformation about the latter and never once mentions the most possible guilty - Benon Sevan - who ran the whole program. But Benon Sevan did not properly declare the invasion of Iraq illegal. Lookout123 has political enemies to fry. Disinformation is how he does it.

Troubleshooter 12-06-2004 09:37 AM

What I want to know is:

1) how much money do we put into the UN,

2) how much of each of its operations do we fund, and

3) why do we keep giving the world that much money if they still hate us?

lookout123 12-28-2004 10:55 AM

US is stingy Rather than starting a new thread I thought I would just revive this one. Here is another shining example of the wonders the UN is capable of.

*UN thought process* We've got a natural disaster. We can't blame it directly on the US and Western civilization. BUT WE CAN BLAME THEM FOR NOT HELPING ENOUGH! Jacues, get a press release ready!
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If we are already pledging $15,000,000 to the relief effort and other nations are throwing millions at the effort, and it has only been a couple of days, why the devil is some Schmo with a UN title bashing us?

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"It is beyond me why are we so stingy, really," the Norwegian-born U.N. official told reporters. "Christmastime should remind many Western countries at least, [of] how rich we have become." "There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy," he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."
yes,yes, that is exactly what i was thinking. tsunami's devastate a place on the other side of the planet and i'm stuck feeling guilty over how low my taxes are. here's an idea, let's raise my taxes, say $500. After that $500 makes it's way up through the layers of the US government, to the UN, through their layers of bureaucracy, to the needy nation and out to the people in need i'm certain that the recipients of my tax money will really appreciate the $2.83 they receive. I think i'll start a letter writing campaign to my congressman right now. i want my taxes raised because a tsunami caused devastation on the other side of the planet.

OR... we could toss the UN right out of New York, sell the prime real estate that they are currently using and send some of the proceeds to Indonesia, Thailand, etc...


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