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Datalyss 02-06-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 632905)
Well I'm a gothic metal freak. I listen to Sabaton, Nightwish, and Within Temptation. You need to pop some rounds with us.

Yeah, I'd be great if Tarja re-joined Nightwish. Anette's ok I guess, but I prefer Taja.

monster 02-06-2010 09:51 PM

Excellent pic, thanks.

monster 02-06-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 632947)
Excellent pic, thanks.

...now go for the close up..... :p


You need to realize that if you are too lazy/prima-donna-ish to look up the whole story, you are going to miss things and you're gonna get called on it. We -the regulars- have plenty of pictorial and non-pictorial evidence that big sarge is straight up.

Datalyss 02-07-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 632950)
You need to realize that if you are too lazy/prima-donna-ish to look up the whole story, you are going to miss things and you're gonna get called on it.

Bring it!

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Originally Posted by monster
We -the regulars- have plenty of pictorial and non-pictorial evidence that big sarge is straight up.

Evidence is not proof. And where is this "evidence?" Show me.

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Originally Posted by monster
Excellent pic, thanks.

Yes, but how can you be sure that's me?

zippyt 02-07-2010 05:45 PM

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Datalyss 02-07-2010 06:09 PM

You mock me because you know a picture and a few stats can't ultimately prove a person is who he/she says he/she is.

I think we all know there are people on the 'net who aren't truthful about who they are.

Ya know, yer right Zippy, I am stupid...cuz I keep coming back here.

monster 02-07-2010 09:48 PM

Nope, do your own homework. You don't believe he is who he says he is, that's fine with me, me... carry on on the stoopit train.

As for your pic, you get pissed off when we don't trust you and pissed off when we do (even if we ask for further corroboration). Perhaps you should just piss of all together and we'd all be happy. maybe except Dana whose lame duck/asshole collection apparently needs a little bolstering.

Datalyss 02-07-2010 10:12 PM

Of course, it's interesting to me that during this entire back and forth, plus all the drauk I've posted in the past, leaving and coming back, and so forth and forsooth, that not once have ya'll realized I've just been messing with ya'. :)

lumberjim 02-07-2010 10:16 PM

I for one was fooled

toranokaze 02-07-2010 10:20 PM

I just don't understand why you get so angry.

And sharp things
http://www.agrussell.com/boker-apple...n/p/BOhhhAF11/

monster 02-07-2010 10:22 PM

I was totally taken in. And now I'm guffawing. What a jolly jape.

OK, I really am done with the fish in a barrel now.

Datalyss 02-07-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 633167)
I for one was fooled

I done a good job, huh? Now, shall we get back on topic?

Here's another fantasy weapon:

Datalyss 02-07-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 633169)
I just don't understand why you get so angry.

I don't get angry. I just type angry.


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Originally Posted by toranokaze

Nice.

toranokaze 02-07-2010 10:42 PM

That clears somethings up.

moar:
http://www.icollector.com/The-Book-o...Props_i9220519

DanaC 02-08-2010 05:45 AM

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1. 9th Century Anglo-Saxon. Bet this was gorgeous when it was made. The swirls on the blade would have made it look all but alive.

2. This decorative pommel is from the Grimston sword.

3. This is what the blades would have looked like when they were first forged: this replica was forged in the same way and using the same materials used by the Anglo-Saxons.

xoxoxoBruce 02-08-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 633238)
3. This is what the blades would have looked like when they were first forged: this replica was forged in the same way and using the same materials used by the Anglo-Saxons.

You mean it's a ...











... forgery? :haha:

Beest 02-08-2010 11:44 AM

http://www.rosetown.org.nz/images/BBQ.jpg

I guess technically it's not a weapon, but probably more practical than those over ornamented daggers and swords. Theres a big thing for them here in the US, which I can never fathom.

Big Sarge - Stay safe and bring 'em all home.

classicman 02-08-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Datalyss (Post 633173)
Here's another fantasy weapon:

Certainly nothing useful. Heck if you plunged it into something your hand would hit the sharp bottom of the decorative bat. Inversely there are sharp edges on the other side. Seems useless to me. If one were to fantasize, it really ought not to be about a sword anyway.

Pete Zicato 02-08-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 633238)
1. 9th Century Anglo-Saxon. Bet this was gorgeous when it was made. The swirls on the blade would have made it look all but alive.

2. This decorative pommel is from the Grimston sword.

3. This is what the blades would have looked like when they were first forged: this replica was forged in the same way and using the same materials used by the Anglo-Saxons.

Are you sure that date is right? It looks a lot like damascus steel, but it's too early for that.

DanaC 02-08-2010 01:20 PM

The first two pics are from museum sites. The first one is dated to 9th century. The last pic is of a replica, so that's modern :P But it was made using the same technique they'd have used. Probably looks like damascus steel because it was 'pattern welded'.

Anglo-Saxon swords, like Viking swords, used to have very distinctive whorls and swirls down the blade because of the way in which they were forged: they twisted rods of metal around each other then beat them down, reheated them and twisted again, then beat them flat. It would take many metal rods to create the blade.

Datalyss 02-08-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 633321)
Certainly nothing useful.


I think we've covered this. The term "fantasy weapon" should be a clue.

Datalyss 02-08-2010 02:09 PM

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Ok, here's a real one:

classicman 02-08-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Datalyss (Post 633336)
I think we've covered this. The term "fantasy weapon" should be a clue.

Why would one fantasize about a USELESS weapon?

Nirvana 02-08-2010 02:31 PM

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Why would one fantasize about a USELESS weapon?

Lots of guys do! ;)

classicman 02-08-2010 03:11 PM

lol - touche'

xhaos01 02-08-2010 03:20 PM

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xhaos01 02-08-2010 03:24 PM

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Datalyss 02-08-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 633340)
Why would one fantasize about a USELESS weapon?

Oh, I dunno. Maybe cuz they LOOK COOL.

classicman 02-08-2010 04:59 PM

Oh I see so perception is everything - gotcha.

DanaC 02-08-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 633303)
You mean it's a ...











... forgery? :haha:


Owwww! I think I broke something whilst laughing at that joke

*blinks*

Gravdigr 02-09-2010 03:38 AM

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The AC-130 Spectre

Big Sarge 02-09-2010 02:39 PM

The AC-130H is a fantastic weapons platform. What really sucks are the limitations placed on their operations due to the MANPAD threat.

...snicker.. I said "MANPAD"...snicker..

Gravdigr 02-10-2010 03:49 AM

I try to learn something new every day (useful or not). I wiki'd MANPAD. Interesting read. THANK YOU, SGT!

TheMercenary 02-10-2010 09:50 AM

I loves me the Spector. Saved many a day over the years.

When I was on AD we got to tour a few. They really did an awesome job taking a C-130 platform and teching it up.

wolf 02-10-2010 12:34 PM

I have a set of these babies. Still in the box. They look cool even when zip-tied to the cardboard.

TheMercenary 02-10-2010 12:47 PM

sweet.

Gravdigr 02-11-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 633735)
I have a set of these babies. Still in the box. They look cool even when zip-tied to the cardboard.

Heheh, somebody sharpened a bass clef!

Gravdigr 02-11-2010 11:11 AM

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Speaking of blades, one of Popdigr's friends made this for him about almost thirty-five yrs ago. (Looks like Pop didn't do a bang-up job of cleaning last time.)

Undertoad 02-11-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 634046)
Heheh, somebody sharpened a bass clef!

You can sharpen a note, you can sharpen an octave, but you absolutely cannot sharpen a clef.

xoxoxoBruce 02-11-2010 11:30 AM

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This knife was made in India during the late 1700s. It's for cutting the excess patch on a muzzle loading rifle, and was used by the Nepalese Royal Guard, until the introduction of cartridge loading rifles around 1840/1850.

Big Sarge 02-12-2010 04:00 AM

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I like your patch knife. I enjoy knives with a history to them. Here are a few knives I had to sell to make ends meets after the incident with the ex.

richlevy 02-12-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 632896)
When I get back to the States, I want an Anzio Ironworks 20mm rifle. This is a Destructive Device so I can't place the order until I complete a Form 4. Anyway it fires the 20mm Vulcan round and has an effective range of app. 3,500 meters.

This would make a lot of sense if it turns out that moose and deer have suddenly acquired an industrial base and upgraded themselves to mechanized infantry. If the deer are driving around in APC's, then a vulcan round is an absolute must.

Why not just buy a LAW? It's only one shot, but you wouldn't need to use meat grinder afterwards.:sniper:

Big Sarge 02-13-2010 06:18 AM

More than anything, a Destructive Device is a great investment. Many of these weapons have increased in value more than 100 fold since the 1990's when importartion restrictions were emplaced. When the Assault Weapon band went into effect, I made a nice bundle by trading my pre-ban guns. I'm betting on a similar trend looking at the restrictions being placed on .50 cal rifles

richlevy 02-13-2010 09:59 AM

I'm having a hard enough time believing that it's legal to buy that. Also, who the heck legally supplies 20mm rounds to the civilian market? If they do, they must cost something like $10 per round.

xoxoxoBruce 02-13-2010 10:46 AM

You're out of touch, richlevy, all your neighbors have them. :haha:

Datalyss 02-13-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 633735)
I have a set of these babies. Still in the box. They look cool even when zip-tied to the cardboard.

:cool:

Datalyss 02-13-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 634051)
Speaking of blades, one of Popdigr's friends made this for him about almost thirty-five yrs ago. (Looks like Pop didn't do a bang-up job of cleaning last time.)

I dunno. Looks good to me.

Big Sarge 02-13-2010 02:42 PM

Rich - you can own a 20mm or even a howitzer as long as you have the Destructive Device tax stamp which comes after a rigorous background check & local law enforcement approval. The 20mm Vulcan ammo is $9.50 for training ammo & $15.00 per tracer. If you handload, you can bring it down to around $5.00

Some people question why someone needs one. The same can be said for a Ferrari. LOL

richlevy 02-13-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 634464)
local law enforcement approval.

That's an interesting loophole. So someone could get approval from the sheriff's department in Backwoods, Arkansas to purchase it and then move to Philadelphia. As long as the buyer doesn't act as a straw purchaser and sell to someone else, is there anything the cops in Philly can do to keep a cannon out of their neighborhood?

xoxoxoBruce 02-13-2010 03:26 PM

Why, do you think someone is going to do that to shoot their neighbor, or rob a Wawa, when it's much easier to just use a shotgun/pistol?

Big Sarge 02-13-2010 05:52 PM

No loophole. I didn't make myself clear. You Tax Stamp for the weapon is issued by the Treasury Department after the backgroundinvestigation and approval by the ATF. The local law enforcement approval is in addition to the Federal approval. You cannot transfer the weapon to another individual without going through a specially licensed dealer and the new owner going through the same process.

People who own these weapons have been vigorously cleared and the weapons are closely tracked. I have never heard of a legally owned NFA weapon being used in a crime.

ZenGum 02-13-2010 06:19 PM

Well, it'd be hard to hide under your coat.

I think the question was not about selling the weapon on to someone else, but the same owner moving to the jurisdiction of a different local law enforcer - do they have to get approval from their new local authority, or does the old approval transfer?

Just curious - suppose you do get one of these monsters ... then what? I could imagine a few fun afternoons blowing shit away on a firing range, but aside from a rather expensive kind of fun, what else could you do with it?

xoxoxoBruce 02-13-2010 06:26 PM

Why collect cars you can't drive? Why collect teapots you can't make tea in?

ZenGum 02-14-2010 03:41 AM

I did think of one use ... you know the eccentric English gentleman who built a giant trebuchet which hurls burning pianos?


Skeet shooting.


Burning piano. Giant gun. Boom.
Okay, now I understand.

Big Sarge 02-14-2010 08:46 AM

Ok. My misunderstanding. To travel with any National Firearm Act weapon or even to move your residence to another state, you must have prior approval by the ATF (BATFE).

These large bore weapons are used in long range competitions. There is also a big machinegun/cannon shoot every year in KY. Like I mentioned earlier, a primary reason for owning these is the investment value.

xoxoxoBruce 02-14-2010 09:02 AM

Nonsense, the primary reason is boner value. :lol2:

Datalyss 02-14-2010 02:49 PM

Are our soldiers becoming borg?

Future Weapons - Soldier of the future

:borg:

classicman 02-14-2010 04:23 PM

Thats nice stuff.

Bullitt 02-14-2010 05:00 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...athcock-M2.jpg

richlevy 02-14-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 634630)
Thats nice stuff.

Just so long as their training includes being without. Hacking, jamming, EMP, and other countermeasures come to mind. Also, a larger and larger amount of the electronics used by our military are made outside of the US, by countries we may be in conflict with, directly or indirectly, in the future. Can you imagine a chip in a networked wireless system crashing on receipt of a coded signal?


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