Chocolatl and Kitsune are in Florida, they should be well out of the path, and Merc's in Georgia, which is closer but still safe I think. Buster's right in the line of fire in Mississippi, like he was last time.

We'll be affected not by the storm itself, but by the fact that thousands upon thousands of evacuees have already descended upon Houston, and they're beginning to overflow up to Austin as hotels and other resources are straining.

The local newspaper's headlines says that officials are preparing for evacuees from Gustav to come into the area, a distance of about 750 miles. I guess everybody will be helping out this time. Best wishes to Cellar folk and families!

Gustav looks like a Cyclopic grinning monster in this weather view

http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atl...hr_tropWx_golf

Ouch

I was about to post, "OMG that looks just like..."
Hey, it's Monday. My common sense doesn't wake up til mid-afternoon.

This thread reminds me of the huge scale of America - something that I forget very often because the people here are easily accessible. I thought I was undertaking quite a journey when I was planning to visit Limey on the Isle of Arran. And here are people evacuating 750 miles! That's nearly Lands End to John O' Groats!

From Foxnews.com....then properly interpreted.
 

That's why I can't go to England... it would make me look fat. ;)

I'd work some of it off for you :joylove:

:lol2: :lol2:

As Clodfobble said, Kitsune and I were thankfully well out of the cone for this one. We've had a few patches of rain and wind off of Gustav this weekend, but nothing major. Last I checked, we were inside the cone of probability for Hannah, so I'll make sure to check back in and let y'all know what happens.

Safe thoughts and best wishes for the rest of you Gulf Coast dwellars, this season.

Lost power at 1pm for hour and 1/2. So far just a little wind and rain for the next few days. Thanks for asking. bb

Thanks for telling BB.

It's because he likes the smell. A fine example of spin...

Yeah, I think he's perverse too.

Isn't that line kinda hard to define in that area?
Lots of stuff on the news about how much hasn't been rebuilt in 3 years. On the one hand you have the "it's ridiculous that it hasn't been rebuilt, and it certainly would have been if it were a richer/whiter area.
On the other hand you have people all over the country saying they don't want to pay to rebuild homes that are below sea level.

Personally, I think the workings of the port are important, and rebuilding it should be a national priority. I also think Katrina helped illustrate the problems with having large percentages of the population dependent upon the government for everything.... kinda fucks things up for everyone.

I agree 100% Well said.

That port is hugely busy -we saw it for ourselves just a few weeks ago.

So we should locate more people 20 feet below sea level? Why is New Orleans there? It is well inland AND has sufficient land above sea level. Land 20 feet below sea level (the ninth ward) is best permitted to become part of New Orleans' protection system. Plenty of land exists nearby to provide port workers. Why is the port of New Orleans not below sea level? Because useful parts of a port city (including where its workers live) should be above sea level.

Why was Katrina so destructive to the ninth ward? Manmade changes compromised the natural protection system - why New Orleans was located so far inland. Mississippi River Gulf Outlet canal gave Katrina an unimpeded path directly into the ninth ward and St Bernard’s Parish. The reason that New Orleans was located so far inland was completely compromised by foolish mistakes such as MrGO.

There is no reason to rebuild the ninth ward. No rebuilt ninth ward means workers will still be available in New Orleans after major storms AND the port is better protected from those storms.

Nobody said the port of New Orleans should not exist. The post exists because it is above sea level. But the port should be constructed to remain functional even after major storms. That means no homes 10 and 20 feet below sea level. What is classicman advocating? More homes 10 and 20 feet below sea level.

Uh - as usual you misread what I said. I am advocating NOT building there - it makes no logical sense whatsoever.

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I read exactly what you said. And, just like UG, it was that stupid. If you had a grasp, then you would have known how accurate my post was. Oh. Your wacko extremist bias will not let you read with intelligence. Feel right at home you penis head. A person so dumb and brainwahsed as to be a George Jr admirer?

classicman - why do you bother to post. You don't even have a college degree - you dumb fuck. See how I try to be so friendly in a way you understand?

My previous post is exactly what you meant. Notice you don't even try to post a correction.

well, there's a rational post. off the meds again TWat?

A perfect dupliation of what wacko extremists such as UG post. Makes classicman feel loved.

do you not even see the irony* in your posts?

*a more cynical dwellar than i might call it hypocrisy, but i'll trust you.

Gee tom, That bold stuff is, as you put it "not attacking the poster" is it? :eyebrow: :rolleyes:

Oh and just to let you know you did get one thing right - I don't have A college degree, I have two of them - thank you.

sure, but were you officer material? /guy who's never served and doesn't understand rank structure/

Who moi??? Fuck no! I leave that to the smart guys like, well like, yeah and um ... fuck it lets go bowling.

tw is so smart! I wish I had the back up of college degrees and all that shit to improve my vocab (is that short for vocational cab-driver?) I reckon I'd stop fucking swearing faster than they'll rebuild NO!

Our threat was Hanna. Ike is right behind her.

We just finished both evacuation plans and prep as well as stay and gut it out plans and prep. There are lots of things that have to get done. Here is a copy of an em I just sent and new person who got stationed down here with us. You have to consider a lot if you are going to stay.

It looks like we are going to be completely missed by Hanna, keeping our eye on Ike.

Ike is already a cat 4 -- a 1000 miles out still -- so either it'll blow itself apart or...

We got a decent amount of rain out of the remnants of Gustav yesterday. Not torrential, just...persistent. Hope all of our Cellarites who are in Hannah and Ike's way get themselves prepared.

Rain? What in the heck is rain?

My most favorite part of summer is thunderstorms. We haven't had any freaking rain in so long we are in danger of official drought.

Damn Ohio.

we've actually had quite a few this year. IIRC our monsoon season was really weak last year but has been pretty sweet in '08. The monsoons just don't come in like they used to, though. I'm sure it has something to do with how the city has built up so much.

er, yeah. thanks for asking. no it's ok, me and the voices in my head have conversations like this all the time. it is a side effect of working by myself so much...

Merc, thanks for the mail (and the enclosed links). It fascinates me. Sorry not to know, but how did Savannah fare after the exodus described in the newspaper article? I guess it wasn't razed to the ground given the gorgeous pictures you post.

If you have a chance to indulge my completely selfish curiousity, please keep us updated on Ike!

IT RAINED LAST NIGHT! I swear I heard all the local foliage breathing a sigh of relief.

It's funny when you live somewhere dry and you get rain. I always run to the window and say "It's raining!"

Yeah, I know what you mean. When I moved here from Ohio in 88, I said "Jeez, you guys are in a worse drought than we were." The people who lived here looked at me like I was on something.

I remember some years ago...I don't know 88 or 89...when we had an official drought. I lived in an apartment in town and the day it finally rained...the entire neighborhood for blocks came outside and stood in it, cheering. It's a really strange thing to not get rain.

I love rain. I should move somewhere soggy.

There was absolutely no damage to Savannah. The storm took a right hook and moved up hitting Charleston. They took it pretty hard.

We are about to get a bunch of rain. I am stuck at work while the wife and kid are going to be home. As long as we don't get many tornados from it and no trees fall on our house we should be good to go.

http://www.intellicast.com/National/...2&animate=true

http://www.intellicast.com/Storm/Hur...m=1&type=track

You'd lose that bet.

Fay=dumped lotsa water here.
Hanna=annoyed us, then left.
Ike=ummm, actually ... he can go somewhere else as far as I'm concerned.

My list of tropical cyclones I have surfed in got another entry today. I don't believe Ike will be as kind as the other two I've taken on this year.:yelsick:

I'd agree with that. Hanna is skirting by us with some tropical gusts and outer rain bands. NC and SC are going to get a spanking.

Ike, that is another thing all together.

How amusing. Really, royally, we are amused!
 

Tw, the chorus to your theme song should run, "Come flail away, come flail away, come flail away with me..." and anyone caring to regard the imagery as that of mental masturbation is welcome to.

It's remarkable how unreceptive you are to the idea that your handling of emotion may be just a trifle subadult. We do know that means your mind is bad and your counsel likely pretty worthless. You want to imagine a worst enemy? Look in the mirror; you'll see him there, every wart, every pimple, every jot and every tittie.

Texass coast is going to have a blow. Anyone on here from down that way?

I know Flint and Clod are both Texans but they've been here today so I don't think they're near the path.

Ike has potential of getting fierce tonight. Gulf water temperatures in that region are well above 30 degrees C - topping off ocean temperature charts. Ike has shifted to spend time where the Gulf is warmest (nearer the flock of oil platforms) and where upper atmosphere wind sheer is minimal. Wave heights even when Ike was only category 2 have reached 30 feet.

Flood plain maps - I can only find maps for the Sabine Pass, Orange, Beauford areas of TX. Relevant would be flooding maps for Galveston and farther south to appreciate how far inland a category 3 (or higher) hurricane will flow. These maps also show evacuation routes that are least likely to flood.

This warning from the National Hurricane Center:

I have some extended family there - they have all left and are staying at hotels through the weekend.

tw - are you in the path of this storm?

My stepkids are in Houston, but it's the northwest end of the city, a good several hours from Galveston. I don't think anyone in their area is evacuating or expecting flooding, but they're prepared for a hell of a thunderstorm.

The models are calling for Ike to be a Category 1 well inland, then curve around and head for Monster in Ann Arbor, Michigan, or maybe down to Ohio to visit Shawnee and Brianna.

We've got a supertyphoon moving in on us here in taipei.
it's batten-down-the-hatches time.

Sweet!

We actually get visited by the tail end of some here in the British Isles. They come up the Gulf Stream.

Nothing like you get of course. But then we are a sensible country, with sensible weather [/AlMurray]

Better news from the National Hurricane Center: It may only strike as a category 2.

However Galveston authorities are saying if you stay in a one or two story house, you will die. They are that blunt.

I saw the headline on CNN.com "Ike may bring certain death." Well, which is it? It either "may" or it's "certain."

Shawnee, you beat me to it. I was going to post the same comment.

Great minds, my friend, great minds.

Isn't death always certain? If not, tell me the secret - I'd surely like to know.

90K idiots in Galveston refused orders to evacuate. Whole damned island's going to be underwater by midnight CDT, if not already. Some of the idiots who refused to evacuate have been plucked from the roofs of their flooded houses by Coast Guard helicopters.

Honestly, reminds me of transplants to South Florida just before Andrew rolled through in 1992 ... or a lot of New Orleans-area residents prior to Katrina. Major 'cane rolls in ... you leave. It's that simple. Or is it?

Also, DirecTV customers can check in on local Houston coverage via channel 361, which is rebroadcasting KHOU's signal.