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Urbane Guerrilla 05-07-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bbro (Post 562690)
Urbane - I am trying to do it without the user of match light or lighter fluid. I keep reading that it leaves an aftertaste on lighter flavored meats like chicken which is what I primarily eat. No worries, I haven't given up yet.

It doesn't, at least not that I can tell. The starter is burned off when there are no more flames flickering, just a charcoal glow. Just give it its time.

Starter also works on lump charcoal, which has that nice purity you're after -- just carbonized wood, no extras. Smoking up your meat with mesquite or hickory chips is nice too. Some will dampen the chips before using them, but burning them dry works every bit as well. Since these are tossed onto the coals, just a handful or two, for the sake of their smoke, expect dense smoke to blow all over the place, and for rather a while, too. Throttling the vents keeps the smoke on the meat longer.

The chimney starter, fired with wadded paper, a few lumps of charcoal, and maybe small kindling wood also, has its fans. Never tried it myself, but it's another approach to heating the charcoal long enough and hot enough to get it good and well lit.

bbro 05-26-2009 10:42 AM

Finally had a successful cook out 2 fridays ago. Cooked the classic hot dogs and hamburgers. The coals actually started a lot better when using cardboard because it seemed to burn shower than the paper. Will try that next. I have some chirizo I want to grill, but need to find something else to cook at the same time. I think I am getting it!

Undertoad 05-26-2009 10:50 AM

I used my chimney starter this weekend, and it worked OK with the methods Zip mentioned. It really was not that much faster than using lighter fluid though.

Pie 05-26-2009 11:09 AM

Prolly smelled better, though!

piercehawkeye45 05-26-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 568721)
I used my chimney starter this weekend, and it worked OK with the methods Zip mentioned. It really was not that much faster than using lighter fluid though.

One of my friends recommended a chimney starter for me but I'm assuming my method of lighting the grill is similar and will take the same amount of time. I just put three to five crumpled up pieces of newspaper under the coal rack, spray the coals with lighter fluid, light the newspaper, then spray on more lighter fluid if needed (from a safe distance). The combined effect usually successfully lights the coals one a single try depending on which type of coals are used.

Undertoad 05-26-2009 11:43 AM

I didn't notice a difference in smell or taste... I agree with UG, if all the coals are ashed up, you know the fluid is long gone.

capnhowdy 05-26-2009 07:06 PM

I thought not using the fluid was the whole point of using the chimney. I never add fluid. Just the newspaper in the bottom.

dar512 05-29-2009 12:09 PM

I only use the chimney starter for smoking, where you need it for firing off the Minion method.

For grilling, I use lighter fluid. Both methods take 20-30 minutes for me.

busterb 05-29-2009 02:33 PM

Most of the cheaper grills, big box, if you build the fire in grill you cut th grill life short. IMHO. Best starter I ever had was an old hub-cap with a few holes drilled in it. Pile the charcoal on, lighter fluid and go had a beer.

capnhowdy 05-30-2009 07:29 AM

Will start cooking pig at lodge at 1200 hrs. Pics pending. I can hardly wait!
And I decided to use bacon for my green bean seasoning. After all... we have a reputation to protect.

capnhowdy 05-31-2009 09:15 AM

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OK... Here's the BBQ pit at the Lodge.....
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capnhowdy 05-31-2009 09:18 AM

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The coal barrel....load wood in top and shovel coals out of door on bottom. Oak wood, of course.Attachment 23596

capnhowdy 05-31-2009 09:19 AM

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The pig just after putting it on.....
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capnhowdy 05-31-2009 09:22 AM

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A little later with some sausage to "hold us over".....and we are slow cooking some baked beans in the pit also.
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capnhowdy 05-31-2009 09:26 AM

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And six hours and 15 scotches later, VIOLA!

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capnhowdy 05-31-2009 09:30 AM

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And finally, side view:
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We had the baked beans, cole slaw, the green beans I talked about earlier, corn on the cobb, and rolls. I forgot (or was too drunk) to remember to take pics of the final "spread". Oh well...sorry.:D

Pie 05-31-2009 10:40 AM

Sounds like an awesome day!

Kitsune 05-31-2009 10:45 AM

Certified Georgia pig -- yummy!

How many people did it feed?

Undertoad 05-31-2009 11:12 AM

I was briefly tweaked because Boston Terriers often lie down with the legs back in "frog leg" position

http://cellar.org/2009/bostonfroglegs.jpg

Pie 05-31-2009 11:27 AM

Them's good eatin, UT! :lol2:

capnhowdy 05-31-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 569773)
Certified Georgia pig -- yummy!

How many people did it feed?

I'm pretty sure there were about 40-45 folks that ate. And we had some left over, which will make for yummeh sammiches.:)

classicman 05-31-2009 12:40 PM

...and the beans you made??? What about them? No pics, no review, no samples... Didja sneak in a lil whisky while they were cookin?

capnhowdy 05-31-2009 12:47 PM

I cooked them toward the end inside in the kitchen. By the time they were ready and dinner was being served, I was fairly scotched, and had forgotten about the camera.
They were delicious, tho... I added a half pound of sauteed, smoked bacon to each large can and a little salt and pepper. They must have been good to everyone else, too. There were hardly any left.

chrisinhouston 06-01-2009 03:01 PM

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Over the weekend the mrs and I celebrated our 10th wedding anniversary so I cooked a special meal.

Grilled and stuffed Maine lobsters
Crab stuffed mushrooms
twice baked potatoes
Steamed asparagus
Apple Crumble

It was sure tasty and we drank two very nice and special bottles of wine. A Williams & Selyam 2005 Pinot Noir and one from Moshin Vineyards. I got them from the winerys but in a restaurant you would probably pay $200 + for those choices!

chrisinhouston 06-01-2009 03:02 PM

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more pics

capnhowdy 06-01-2009 08:23 PM

What a class act. Looks good. And Happy Anniversary!

bbro 06-10-2009 02:57 PM

Well, I've been thinking and I decided that I am not going to be the big snob about match light charcoal vs regular. If I notice a difference in taste, then I will worry about it. I mean who am I to say how bad match light is? I just read too much for my own good.

In fact, I am going to make some chicken skewers this week. With pineapple, onion, and peppers. Lets not forget the BBQ sauce, too.

capnhowdy 06-10-2009 08:03 PM

There is no better guru than experience remembered.

Juniper 06-10-2009 09:06 PM

Big V, you're someone I DEFINITELY would enjoy going camping with.

A friend of ours has one of those smokers. Everyone raves about the stuff he cooks in it - he always brings it when we go camping and has a blast just tending it, playing cornhole and drinking beer all day. But I think the meat is always just a little tough for my taste. Cheap cuts, I guess. We brought a pork loin for him to put in there last time and it was really good. Unfortunately we shared with everyone else and it was also the first meat to disappear. :p

It was pretty funny, though, when he opened the door to check on things and WHOOSH, singed his beard. :D

I enjoy cooking on a campfire, just for the fun of the challenge. But at home, I'm really lazy and love my gas grill. Just push a button, and it's good to go. I use it a lot. I wouldn't say I'm all that good at it, though. All we usually make is burgers, metts/brats, chicken, or chops.

Tonight I tried making shrimp on the grill for the first time. I don't eat shrimp (I'm allergic) but everyone else likes them, so I tried. Put 'em on skewers. Lesson one: soak skewers first. Lesson two: Brush oil on shrimp, not just teriyaki sauce. Lesson three: Don't overcook. :)

Well, the dogs liked 'em. It was only a small bag.

Inspired by two recent Girl Scout & Boy Scout trips, I decided to get my own dutch oven. Hubby found one tonight at Harbor Freight for $25. I hope it isn't cheap junk.

Kitsune 06-11-2009 11:59 AM

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playing cornhole and drinking beer all day

Hey Peter...


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