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sweetwater 04-29-2009 12:57 PM

Texas just went under under statewide disaster declaration because of swine flu outbreak, with all (UIL) athletic competitions canceled until May 8th, per Gov Rick Perry. We have the cooties! (apparently)

For Texas to cancel high school athletic competitions is a Very Big Deal. This state is nutz about that stuff.:crazy:

glatt 04-29-2009 01:24 PM

I'm more aware of people coughing and sneezing on the Metro during my daily commutes. It's peak tree pollen time, so there's a lot of sneezing going on.

I'm not sure what I'm gonna do if/when this thing becomes common in this area. I kind of depend on public transportation, but sealing myself into a train car twice a day with a hundred random strangers seems like it's asking for trouble. On the other hand, I'm exposed to so many people every day, I've probably got a super strong immune system. If it gets bad, I'll probably wear a mask on my commutes. I've got a ton of them for woodworking.

dar512 04-29-2009 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 561420)
If it gets bad, I'll probably wear a mask on my commutes. I've got a ton of them for woodworking.

I'd check to see if woodworking masks are suitable. Are you sure they'd filter virus cells?

glatt 04-29-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 561423)
I'd check to see if woodworking masks are suitable. Are you sure they'd filter virus cells?

Not all of them will, but the ones I have should. They're the P95, or whatever.

If they don't, I also bought a box of N95 medical masks a while ago during the bird flu hysteria.

Edit: I just learned that the P95 and N95 masks are identical, but the P95 masks are highly resistant to oil, while the N95 masks are not resistant at all. So my woodworking masks are actually better than my medical masks. Although mine have exhalation valves, so they won't protect anyone from me. They will just protect me from them while I breathe in cool comfort.

LabRat 04-29-2009 04:05 PM

here we go....wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Quote:

Illinois Logs Nine Probable Cases of Swine Flu
Story Created: Apr 29, 2009 at 2:30 PM CDT

CHICAGO (AP) - The head of the Illinois Department of Public Health says the state has logged nine probable cases of swine flu, all in northern Illinois.

Dr. Damon Arnold says five of the probable cases are in Chicago, while two are in Kane County and single cases are being reported in both Lake and DuPage counties. The people diagnosed range in age from 2 to 57.

Arnold says all of the cases so far have been mild and nobody has been hospitalized.

Arnold appeared at a news conference Wednesday called in the wake of Chicago's decision to close an elementary school after one student there was found to have a probable case of swine flu.

Arnold, Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, Gov. Pat Quinn and other officials all stressed that the state is working hard to prevent further illnesses.

Crimson Ghost 04-29-2009 04:21 PM

I'm doing my part to stop the swine flu.

I'm eating the pigs.

But I'm only one man...........

kerosene 04-29-2009 04:39 PM

You forgot the </Ron White> closing tag, there Crimson. :)

sweetwater 04-29-2009 04:45 PM

It might be more effective if you switched to long pig, eh? ;)

Crimson Ghost 04-29-2009 05:11 PM

Ah, human.
The other, other white meat.

capnhowdy 04-29-2009 08:08 PM

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Clodfobble 04-29-2009 10:03 PM

We have at least one confirmed case in a child here in Austin, and that kid's elementary school has been shut down for two weeks.

Tiki 04-30-2009 08:21 AM

Here's a helpful poster for combating swine flu hysteria:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14763148/D...Have-Swine-Flu

glatt 04-30-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 561517)
We have at least one confirmed case in a child here in Austin, and that kid's elementary school has been shut down for two weeks.

You probably don't know this, but are they going to extend the academic year into the summer by two weeks? That's a long time to just close a school.

Kitsune 04-30-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiki (Post 561582)
Here's a helpful poster for combating swine flu hysteria:[/url]

Oh, god, that is so wrong.

...but it might suddenly end up in the breakrooms at my office later today. :D

Oh noes, I have contracted Bacon Lung!

Clodfobble 04-30-2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt
You probably don't know this, but are they going to extend the academic year into the summer by two weeks? That's a long time to just close a school.

On the one hand, I think legally they have to, because there's a minimum number of days the kids must be in school... but on the other, I think that's the sort of thing the governor could easily override in special circumstances. My stepkids' school in Houston was closed for a week due to the hurricane last year, and they didn't extend their school year to make up for it as far as I know.

Sundae 04-30-2009 12:47 PM

I was watching Sky News last night (bad move anyway) and they were interviewing people coming back from Mexico. Two of them mentioned that they were told when boarding the flight that they would all be quarantined and subjected to a health check on departure. They weren't, they were just allowed to disembark as normal.

Hmmm, I think - why use that comment from those particular people? Oh I see - the rest of the piece was about how the Government is not taking the outbreak seriously. How the passengers disembarking were rightly concerned (yeah, I'm sure all the tired passengers really wanted to be waiting around for hours to find out they are currently fine). Cue clip of Japanese airport with returning travellers being treated like ET, all shrink wrap and polythene tunnels. That's doing it properly apparently.

Stupid spin-frenzy-storm-hungry Sky News.

Then again, stupid Government, who are sending a leaflet re Swine Flu to every house in the UK. What a waste of bleedin money.

I like those decorated masks though.
If I had been quick enough I'd have put some like that on eBay, would have made a killing!

LabRat 04-30-2009 01:05 PM

Ever wonder what happens between the Q-tip and the test result?

Wonder no more, dwellars!

Quote:

UHL explains 'What happens to my test for swine flu?'

As health care professionals across the state of Iowa test for swine influenza A, people may be wondering, "Who conducts the testing for swine flu and how are positives determined?"

The central hub for such testing in Iowa is the University Hygienic Laboratory, which is the state's public health and environmental lab. The Hygienic Laboratory was established by Iowa law and serves all 99 Iowa counties.

When suspected swine flu specimens are brought to the Hygienic Lab, located just north of Iowa City, the scientists and support staff follow these steps:

--Specimens are processed and prepared for analysis and assigned a bar-coded label for data entry.

--Once the specimens are in the virology section of the lab, scientists look for the influenza A virus.

--Once testing is complete, laboratory analysts verify results. Specimens received by the Hygienic Laboratory in the morning are generally ready for reporting by the end of the day.

--If the novel strain of influenza is suspected to be present, the specimen is sent on for confirmatory testing, which is currently being conducted at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta.

--In the coming days, the Hygienic Laboratory expects to receive testing kits from the CDC so that confirmatory testing can be conducted in Iowa.

--If the CDC (and later the Hygienic Laboratory) confirms a positive for the novel strain of swine flu, CDC notifies the Hygienic Laboratory, which in turn notifies the Iowa Department of Public Health and the physician who ordered the test.

"In this process, it's important to remember that not every person who goes to the doctor not feeling well is tested for swine flu," said Christopher Atchison, director of the Hygienic Laboratory. "Physicians will determine if patients meet CDC criteria for testing before they collect specimens and send them to us. Besides the swine flu, regular seasonal influenza is still being detected by the lab."

Atchison said the Hygienic Laboratory is anticipating a surge in testing from this outbreak of a new strain of swine flu. Since the outbreak began, the laboratory has distributed approximately 1,900 specimen collection tubes to health care providers across the state.

"Health care providers are preparing for the onslaught of testing," said Michael Pentella, Ph.D., associate director of infectious disease testing at the Hygienic Laboratory. "Their efforts are very important."

STORY SOURCE: University Hygienic Laboratory, 102 Research Park, H101 OH, Iowa City, Iowa 52242-5002

LabRat 04-30-2009 01:14 PM

Along with the above article, this was in my email today as well.

Quote:

Dear Members of the University of Iowa community:

As you've likely heard, the Iowa Department of Public Health announced Wednesday that the University Hygienic Laboratory has identified two probable cases of H1N1 influenza (sometimes referred to as "swine flu") within the state, both involving southeast Iowa residents or visitors. One person who may have been infected with the flu attended a conference in Coralville.

Neither person has required hospitalization, and the Johnson County Department of Public Health is not recommending post-exposure prophylaxis (preventive treatment with antiviral medications) for people who may have come in contact with the Coralville visitor.

"sometimes referred as swine flu" :rolleyes:

Tiki 04-30-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitsune (Post 561604)
Oh, god, that is so wrong.

...but it might suddenly end up in the breakrooms at my office later today. :D

Oh noes, I have contracted Bacon Lung!

:lol:

Pie 04-30-2009 04:07 PM

Well, last week I had popcorn lung...

Crimson Ghost 05-01-2009 12:41 AM

Can you still catch 'swine flu' even if you keep a kosher table?

NTTAWWT.....

xoxoxoBruce 05-01-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capnhowdy (Post 561330)
23 Month old child dies from swine flu in Texas town.:eek::eek:

This link has some interesting stuff.

Yeah, a Mexican kid that crossed into Texas for treatment, presumably with family or some other exposed adult(s). Thanks a lot.

Kitsune 05-01-2009 07:36 AM

We must remain vigilant! Please, be sure to check your symptoms. http://doihaveswineflu.org/

capnhowdy 05-01-2009 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 561833)
Yeah, a Mexican kid that crossed into Texas for treatment, presumably with family or some other exposed adult(s). Thanks a lot.

I rest my case/point about the flood of illegals from a previous post in this thread. :)

capnhowdy 05-01-2009 09:24 PM

old commercials about swine flu
:D

Nirvana 05-01-2009 10:36 PM

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TheMercenary 05-02-2009 07:26 AM

:lol2:

TheMercenary 05-02-2009 11:00 AM

A guide for parents.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/parents.htm

Aliantha 05-03-2009 02:32 AM

Apparently 'Swine Flu' may not be as deadly as first suggested.

That's good news.

Kitsune 05-03-2009 12:03 PM

See you in the fall, bitches!

piercehawkeye45 05-08-2009 09:22 AM

Interesting and informative article.

Quote:

A preliminary analysis of the H1N1 swine flu virus isolated from human cases in California and Texas reveals that six of the eight viral gene segments arose from North American swine flu strains circulating since 1998, when a new strain was first identified on a factory farm in North Carolina.

This genetic fingerprint, first released by Columbia University’s Center for Computation Biology and the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton,[1] has now been reportedly confirmed by researchers at the University of Edinburgh, St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital and virologist Ruben Donis, chief of the molecular virology and vaccines branch at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Dr. Robert Webster, the director of the U.S. Collaborating Center of the World Health Organization, and considered the "godfather of flu research,"[2] is reported as saying "The triple reassortant in pigs [first discovered in the U.S. in 1998] seems to be the precursor."
http://www.hsus.org/farm/news/ournew...98_042909.html

Tiki 05-08-2009 12:08 PM

So much for blaming Mexico. :(

Before you know it, plane tickets will be back up and I'll have missed out.

Shawnee123 05-08-2009 12:12 PM

I'm thoroughly disappointed in this flu. It is the worst pandemic EVAH. Where's the weeks off school (work) and the empty grocery aisles, and the clear interstates, and the thinning of the humans?

Hmmmph, I could have done better job with some typhoid.

tw 05-09-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 563830)
I'm thoroughly disappointed in this flu.

1918 flu epidemic did the same thing. Then came back with revenge some months later.

Nobody was saying a pandemic was eminent. But precautions due to public warnings and precautions in some locations may have averted widespread infections.

Curious is how this H1N1 virus is so harmful to kids but not harmful to adults. Adults may have protection due to previous flu strains well before 2000 or (some speculated) due to previous flu vaccinations.

TheMercenary 07-13-2009 09:05 PM

67 Air Force cadets stricken with swine flu

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...391?source=rss

And:

New flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study

http://www.reuters.com/article/healt...rpc=22&sp=true

New flu "unstoppable", WHO says, calls for vaccine

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...edName=topNews

TheMercenary 07-13-2009 09:24 PM

From Flu unstoppable above:

Quote:

Seasonal influenza is deadly enough -- each year it is involved in 250,000 to 500,000 deaths globally. But most are the elderly or those with some kind of chronic disease that makes them more vulnerable to flu, such as asthma.

ELDERLY ADVANTAGE

The elderly seem to have some extra immunity to this new H1N1, which is a mixture of two swine viruses, one of which also contains genetic material from birds and humans. It is a very distant cousin of the H1N1 virus that caused the 1918 pandemic that killed 50 million to 100 million people.

A study published in the journal Nature on Monday confirmed that the blood of people born before 1920 carries antibodies to the 1918 strain, suggesting their immune systems remember a childhood infection.

The work by Dr. Yoshihiro Kawaoka also supports other studies that this new H1N1 strain does not stay in the nose and throat, as do most seasonal viruses.

"The H1N1 virus replicates significantly better in the lungs," Kawaoka said. Other studies have also shown it can cause gastrointestinal effects, and that it targets people not usually thought of as being at high risk.

"Obesity has been observed to be one of the risk factors for more severe reaction to H1N1" -- something never before seen, Kieny added. It is not clear if obese people may have undiagnosed health problems that make them susceptible, or if obesity in and of itself is a risk.

On Friday, a team at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the University of Michigan reported that nine out of 10 patients treated in an intensive care unit there were obese. They also had unusual symptoms such as blood clots in the lungs and multiple organ failure.

None have recovered and three died.

The CDC estimates at least a million people are infected in the United States alone and clinics everywhere are advised not to test each and every patient, so keeping an accurate count of cases will be impossible. The United States has documented 211 deaths and WHO counted 429 early last week.

jinx 07-13-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 581325)
New flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study


Quote:

Bacteria played role in 1918 viral flu deaths, scientists say


Research on the 1918 flu pandemic indicates that the virus triggered a massive immune response that injured the lungs, allowing bacterial infection. Findings may influence preparations for pandemics.

link



TheMercenary 07-14-2009 12:46 PM

Interesting. I am sure that little has changed on that front. People develop pneumonia and then subsequent bacterial infections are often fatal.

jinx 07-14-2009 06:33 PM

Seems like the more effective/less abused antibiotic route would make more sense than iffy vaccines then. Swine flu vax didn't work out too well last time, what with it killing more people than the flu and all...

sugarpop 07-15-2009 04:21 PM

Is there some other way to protect yourself besides a vaccine? I never get the vaccine. I have an aversion to it. I simply do not trust the medical industry anymore. They are too much about profits.

Aliantha 07-15-2009 05:09 PM

Stay away from sick people would be my advice.

That's what I've been doing with Max, although Mav came home and told us that one of the kids in his class had swine flu over the break. She's back at school though, so I assume she's not contagious now.

capnhowdy 07-15-2009 09:13 PM

Stay away from sick people?
Then you couldn't log on in teh Cellar.
OH... you meant physically.

Carry on.

TheMercenary 07-22-2009 10:49 AM

Well it looks like it is here. The majority of people with the flu here seem to have Novel H1N1 (Swine Flu). My wife may be sick with it.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

glatt 07-22-2009 11:18 AM

amazing that it's so active after school is out.

TheMercenary 07-22-2009 11:51 AM

:D :D :D

Quote:

Gov't calls for volunteers to test swine flu shots

Jul 22 11:43 AM US/Eastern
By LAURAN NEERGAARD

WASHINGTON (AP) - The government is calling for several thousand volunteers to roll up their sleeves for the first swine flu shots, in a race to test whether a new vaccine really will protect against the virus before its expected to rebound in the fall.
The National Institutes of Health's infectious disease chief, Dr. Anthony Fauci, (FOW'-chee) tells The Associated Press that scientists first will test different doses of the swine flu vaccine in healthy adults and, if there are no immediate safety concerns, quickly begin testing babies and children.

The studies will begin at eight medical centers around the country—in Baltimore; Iowa City, Iowa; St. Louis; Nashville; Seattle; Atlanta; Cincinnati and Houston.

TheMercenary 07-22-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 583117)
amazing that it's so active after school is out.

I agree. Nothing in the CDC report indicated why it was so high. It may be related to it's pestiferousness.

sugarpop 07-23-2009 05:07 PM

Hey Merc, is your wife OK? Tell her I hope she feels better soon.

TheMercenary 07-23-2009 08:32 PM

Yea, turns out it was some minor flu. Couldn't have been H1N1, lacked many of the symptoms or severity. Thanks for asking. She is on the up turn.

sugarpop 07-23-2009 09:42 PM

yea! Lucky her having YOU to look after her. :D If only I could be so lucky...

Sundae 07-25-2009 10:22 AM

Okay, prepare yourself for an urban-legend-style connection.

My Mum used to work with a woman whose Mum is the Practice Manager (chief non-medical honcho) of the second-nearest surgery to us. She contracted swine flu. In a minor way, but she passed the £20 test. Apparently this is what medical staff (semi-seriously) use to categorise their patients. You think you have flu. You're gazng out into the garden/ yard/ back wall. You see £20 fluttering in the breeze. If you go and get it, it's not flu.

I've not heard of anyone else with it - despite my parents' ridiculous paper trumpeting 350 deaths a day!!! (potentially). But I admit I know very few people anyway. My CPN is ill, but that's the thrid time she's been off sick since April.

Undertoad 07-25-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Apparently this is what medical staff (semi-seriously) use to categorise their patients. You think you have flu. You're gazng out into the garden/ yard/ back wall. You see £20 fluttering in the breeze. If you go and get it, it's not flu.
This after all the good things you've had to say about the NHS...!

Sundae 07-26-2009 07:33 AM

Meh- the NHS is a good thing. But people are people all over the world, difficult, doubting, obstreperous. The "test" is a reaction to people bigging up their illness.

In my mind, the same applies as a migraine test. People clutch their heads and moan about having a migraine while sitting at their desk and working! Or my ex-landlord having one all day... but listening to the radio and making himself real coffee and real porridge (from oatmeal)...

No.

If you have a migraine you hope you have a brain tumour, because at least that means you'll be on opiates until you die.

And if you have influenza you don't behave like someone who fancies a few days off work. Maybe Brits don't make the best Doctors though :)

Aliantha 07-26-2009 04:55 PM

I am taking Aden to be tested for swine flu today. He was exposed to someone over the weekend who was quarantined last week, and now he's got a very sore thoat and is complaining of feeling really cold which of course is usually a indication that there's an imminent fever.

Anyway, hopefully it's something benign.

TheMercenary 07-26-2009 06:19 PM

I hope it all turns out well. Current estimates are that there may be an infection rate as high as 40% world wide.

Aliantha 07-26-2009 07:41 PM

The doctor has quarantined Aden for 7 days and started him on tamiflu under suspicion of swine flu due to the fact that he clearly has a viral infection in his throat, has headaches and has been in contact with swine flu in the last 72 hours. Basically our whole household is in lockdown now, but so far Aden is the only one with symptoms. Hopefully it'll stay that way. I've confined him to his room and the back entertainment area with some bacterial handwash and face masks for whenever he comes into the rest of the house, which should be infrequently as he has all the facilities he needs in the area I'm asking him to stick to.

Anyway, he doesn't seem too sick just at the moment, so with any luck, he wont get too sick at all.

Sundae 07-27-2009 08:19 AM

My thoughts are with you Ali - here's hoping he either doesn't have it or is one of the many people who get only weak symptoms.

Keep us up to date.

Aliantha 07-27-2009 05:28 PM

Thanks matey. I feel pretty confident that things will be pretty right. As far as I can tell I've done everything right and there should be little chance of transmission to other family members. Aden is being pretty good about his quarantine too, and his teacher have sent home work for him, so all in all, it should be pretty good.

Mav is just enjoying his extra holiday! Daryl is enjoying one too now because his work has a policy about swine flu and it states that he shouldn't come to work if anyone in your family has or is suspected of having swine flu.

TheMercenary 07-27-2009 07:53 PM

Any news?

ZenGum 07-27-2009 08:38 PM

Healthy young lad, appropriate medical attention, supportive family (including Ali's cooking) = he'll be fine.

he probably thinks being locked in a room with a TV, internet and playstation is the best sickness he's ever had.

Aliantha 07-27-2009 09:59 PM

Well he's been doing homework today, and we're just about to start working on a poetry assignment (which I think looks really fun but he's not so keen), so he's doing fine. He's a bit off colour, but nothing too drastic, and he's still well enough to try a bit of back chat every now and then, so I'm pretty sure he's not going to die.

Tonight we're having chicken risotto and some kind of vege loading somehow. Maybe a ragout or something like that, or maybe just a nice yummy fresh salad.


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