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classicman 04-22-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 650803)
But I will look into the clip ons.

Clip-ons have come a long way! They actually come as a set in some cases and match your glasses perfectly. Some literally clip on and others use magnets. I loved mine till I lost them, but that was completely my fault. <shrug>

Spexxvet 04-22-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 650803)
better control?
...

Better control because you determine when you're wearing sunglasses and when you're not. You have absolutely no control over your Transitions lenses - they get dark when uv light hits them, and light when it doesn't. When you walk from bright daylight into a dimly lit restaurant, the lenses will take 7-10 minutes to fade. In essence, they're sunglasses for awhile when you don't want them to be sunglasses. With over-rx or clip-ons, you don't have to take off your clear Rx glasses - they both go on top of your clear glasses, and the change is immediate.

The most convenient are the magnetic clip-on sunglasses, but they're not inexpensive.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 650804)
What about buying the frames online and having the lenses put in by an optician.
Thats what I've done. IIRC not all places carry all the lines, just like everything else.
Do you find that to be a relatively new trend, Spexx?

I've seen it a couple of times. It's disappointing when I have to tell someone that the frame they bought on line doesn't fit them or is incompatible with their Rx.

Cloud 04-22-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 650807)
Clip-ons have come a long way! They actually come as a set in some cases and match your glasses perfectly. Some literally clip on and others use magnets. I loved mine till I lost them, but that was completely my fault. <shrug>

but I'd still be clipping them on and off constantly, if I'm running errands and stuff.

I don't have a real problem with the Transitions staying too dark when I come in.

Not arguing, just debating, since I have an imminent glasses purchase to make.

Also, do you know --- I'm not sure what coatings my present glasses have, but I noticed after a while that I've got some iridescence on them. Is that the anti-reflective coating? Does it just do that, or maybe I messed it up by washing with soap and water?

classicman 04-22-2010 01:34 PM

Its not that big a deal to do/undo the clip-ons.

Personally, I will NEVER buy that anti-reflective crap EVAHHHHHHHHHH again.

Cloud 04-22-2010 01:53 PM

My friend and cow order just showed me her scratched glasses -- from using clip ons

Shawnee123 04-22-2010 03:09 PM

That's another reason I don't want real glasses. I'm hell on glasses. I had a prescription pair (paid for by an old job) that had scratch resistant crap. That shit didn't resist anything.

Flint 04-22-2010 03:46 PM

Confusing Testimonial © 2010
 
Magic Clips are teh sweeetness. When you paid tha cost to be tha boss you will wear these and then you will know, my droogs.

Spexxvet 04-22-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 650835)
...Also, do you know --- I'm not sure what coatings my present glasses have, but I noticed after a while that I've got some iridescence on them. Is that the anti-reflective coating? Does it just do that, or maybe I messed it up by washing with soap and water?

Yep, that's AR
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 650838)
...Personally, I will NEVER buy that anti-reflective crap EVAHHHHHHHHHH again.

I never go without it.
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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 650840)
My friend and cow order just showed me her scratched glasses -- from using clip ons

I'll bet they're the kind that clamp onto the lens. Magnetic clip-ons are held away from the lenses.
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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 650865)
That's another reason I don't want real glasses. I'm hell on glasses. I had a prescription pair (paid for by an old job) that had scratch resistant crap. That shit didn't resist anything.

I don't know what you had, but I was around before scratch resistant coatings. Now THAT was bad!
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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 650870)
Magic Clips are teh sweeetness. When you paid tha cost to be tha boss you will wear these and then you will know, my droogs.

You're as clear as an unmuddy lake. As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer. Time for a little of the Ludwig Van.

squirell nutkin 04-22-2010 05:19 PM

As a photographer I am vision obsessed. As far as I'm concerned there cannot be enough AR coatings on my glasses. I want my glassses to have the same shit that's on my lenses.
I fucking hate flare.

Flint 04-22-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 650910)
I fucking hate flare.


Shawnee123 04-22-2010 05:28 PM

That's how mmhnmlmmhmnsmmn would spell it!

squirell nutkin 04-22-2010 06:11 PM

@Flint
I thought you said you wanted to be part of the team.

HungLikeJesus 04-22-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 650870)
Magic Clips are teh sweeetness. When you paid tha cost to be tha boss you will wear these and then you will know, my droogs.

I have a pair of Magic Clips and one of the arms recently broke off right at the frame. Otherwise the glasses are in perfect condition. I don't want to buy a whole new set of frames/lenses/sunglasses, but I haven't been able to get them fixed. I don't remember how much they cost, but I know it was a lot.

squirell nutkin 04-22-2010 10:21 PM

Get the Bendium ones that don't break:

Undertoad 04-22-2010 10:27 PM

Do they make these in prescription?

http://cellar.org/2010/bonoglasses.jpg

Bruce 9012 04-22-2010 10:34 PM

Everything looks worse through rose colored glasses. says Bono.

classicman 04-23-2010 09:26 AM

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thats why he has multiple pairs ...

Shawnee123 04-23-2010 09:30 AM

Yabbut, he's a dickhead.

squirell nutkin 04-23-2010 10:12 AM

damn, Catholic rock stars get more ass than a toilet seat. What's up with that?

Shawnee123 04-23-2010 10:40 AM

They were taught at a young age, when they were altar boys.

glatt 04-23-2010 10:43 AM

I read this as "They were taut at a young age, when they were alter boys."

Which is also gross.

Shawnee123 04-23-2010 10:45 AM

Gross, yes...but heeelarious!

Spexxvet 04-23-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 650958)
I have a pair of Magic Clips and one of the arms recently broke off right at the frame. Otherwise the glasses are in perfect condition. I don't want to buy a whole new set of frames/lenses/sunglasses, but I haven't been able to get them fixed. I don't remember how much they cost, but I know it was a lot.

You should be able to get just the temple, although there are some vendors who sell only complete units. You should not have to buy new Rx lenses.
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Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 650978)
Get the Bendium ones that don't break:

Ain't nuttin that don't break.
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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 650981)
Do they make these in prescription?

http://cellar.org/2010/bonoglasses.jpg

Yes, here's your Rx:

Suck on 1 Bono 3x daily until completely gay.:p:

Shawnee123 04-23-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 651073)
Ain't nutkin that don't break.

Yes, here's your Rx:

Suck on 1 Bono 3x daily until completely gay.:p:

Fixed part of it for you (hey, it's all the rage!)

I wouldn't suck on Bono with someone else's mouth. :o

lumberjim 05-12-2010 11:05 AM

Why do people that work in the 'Hair Business' love puns so much?

Shear Pleasure
Shear Perfection
Hair today Gone tomorrow

all local hair cutteries.

I just loaded a deal for a stylist... his email begins with 'hairim'

I've been pulling my hair out over this. It just won't gel for me.

jinx 05-12-2010 11:13 AM

Twisted Scissors...

Why do I get poison ivy rashes from eating mangoes, and why can't I stop?

classicman 05-12-2010 11:43 AM

I hair what your sayin' Jim.

Clodfobble 05-12-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx
Why do I get poison ivy rashes from eating mangoes, and why can't I stop?

There's a lot of evidence that people crave the foods they're mildly allergic to, because the allergic reaction involves a release of endorphins.

xoxoxoBruce 05-12-2010 12:42 PM

Itching is an excuse to touch yourself.;)

jinx 05-12-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 655780)
There's a lot of evidence that people crave the foods they're mildly allergic to, because the allergic reaction involves a release of endorphins.

Well that would be just like me... similar to going thru several bottles of hot sauce and hot salsa every week I imagine...

xoxoxoBruce 05-12-2010 09:52 PM

Well hell, that's because you look Mexican. :lol2:

toranokaze 05-17-2010 02:43 PM

Hypothesis testing

Spexxvet 05-22-2010 07:58 AM

If the economy sucks, people are defaulting on their mortgages, and employment is high, why do the Phillies sell out the ball park every game?

Griff 05-22-2010 08:00 AM

They are still issuing credit cards.

squirell nutkin 05-22-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 651055)
I read this as "They were taut at a young age, when they were alter boys."

Which is also gross.

Reminds me of the altar boys football team, start out as a tight end and become a wide receiver...

Which is also gross, too.

Spexxvet 05-22-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 657855)
They are still issuing credit cards.

Boy, that's not very reassuring.

TheDaVinciChode 05-23-2010 04:58 AM

What's been mildly perplexing me, ever since America decided to "police the world," is, well...

How can freedom, be freedom, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?
How can democracy be democracy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?
How can diplomacy be diplomacy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?

Shouldn't these be chosen by the populous, by the country itself? You believe, just because they're under the rule of an oppressive, over-bearing dictatorship, any country has the right to determine what they want, what they need, and how best to give it to them? No, sir, I do not agree, and it perplexes me, to no end, that people actually DO think it's the right course of action.

Much like charity - Now, as much as I think it's a great thing, that larger countries give (I live in England... We're about as charitable as an outside country can get!) I also believe it hinders, rather than helps, the countries wherein charity is given. The more money we throw at them, the less able they will ever be to create their own future. What right do we have, to create it for them? Why should we shape them, in our own image? (Much like we're trying to shape countries like Iraq, and Afghanistan, in our own image, because we disagree with their internal politics, as well as internal culture, despite the fact that we have no actual right, political, or societal, to do so.)

Many countries started out in similar positions to, say, certain African nations... They rose above it, they overcame the nature of their land... And because of it, they became bigger, stronger, better nations. If we keep throwing money, people, and technology, to these under-developed nations, they'll never have the chance, ability, will, or want, to rise above the nature of their land.

Countries around the world (not just America, but all busy-body countries, like my own, too, that are under the false sense of doing a good deed,) need to mind their own countries, and leave others to discover, for themselves, who they are, as a nation, as well as where they wish to stand on a global economic/industrial scale.

There are plenty of poor, destitute people, within our own countries, that are over-looked, because it's easier to look outward, than inward... and this is something that really needs to be re-considered.

I understand the desire to help, to make better the world around us... but what about the world closer to home? How can we help those beyond our borders, when those WITHIN our borders, are ignored, over-looked, and crying for help, themselves?

How can we actually help ANYONE, if they are unwilling to help themselves? (Within and beyond our own national borders.)

Why SHOULD we help countries that are not our own? That is not a selfish, or cruel stand-point... it is a true stand-point. If people, places, and cultures, are not allowed to evolve on their own terms, how will they ever survive? We throw religion at them, we throw the idea of OUR government at them, we throw the ideals of OUR societies at them... how will they evolve, as a nation, as a people, with their own identity, if this is what we do?

We throw money at them, so we feel better about our own lives... not to help them.

I find it to be a despicable tactic, to be honest. We're one step short of simply invading these countries, and enforcing our way of life on them... rather than trying to convince them of our way of life, through "charity," and "trades agreements."

Invading Iraq, Afghanistan... Charitable aid to Africa... The desired end result is the same, and the damage done, too, is the same... It's simply another name for the same process - Assimilation of a culture, to better fit how WE believe a country, or, rather, the entire world, should be.

This was not intended as a rant. Sorry about that, but it just so perplexing, to me, that the world sits by, thinking we're doing GOOD DEEDS, by invading, or throwing money at, countries that we're simply trying to bring in line with our own system of politics, beliefs, etc...

Cloud 05-23-2010 03:38 PM

who stole the box of CDs out of my car?

Pie 05-23-2010 04:41 PM

Chode! You're back!!

Cicero 05-23-2010 08:37 PM

Do not buy a red couch... It may be cool in the store...but later turn into an eyesore... Definitely do not buy a 900.00 red couch! Here in SF you can't buy a decent couch for less than a 1000 unless it's used. Ugggg....
OK now show us which sofa.. :)

TheDaVinciChode 05-24-2010 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 657995)
Chode! You're back!!

This is perplexing me, today.

I didn't think anyone even noticed me, whilst here, let alone whilst gone!

classicman 05-24-2010 08:46 AM

BS. I've been rereading your post above for 2 days. I agree with much of it.

Pie 05-24-2010 11:20 AM

I mentioned you in the APB thread, iirc.

squirell nutkin 05-24-2010 11:25 AM

So what's going on with um, what's his name. xoxoxoBruce?

monster 05-24-2010 01:23 PM

he eloped with ducksnuts

lumberjim 05-24-2010 03:11 PM

here he is

TheDaVinciChode 05-25-2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 658043)
BS. I've been rereading your post above for 2 days. I agree with much of it.

I welcome further debate!

--

What's been perplexing me, today? Hm... Well, I posted a little about it, in a different thread, and it's still perplexing me, to this day:

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Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode (Post 657957)
The ever-growing realisation that mainstream music no longer requires any talent... not like it did, two decades ago.

Voices are more synthetic, than real, these days. "Glee" is the most recent proof of this.

How is it that we can call modern-day musicians, "musicians" at all? Computers do most of the work... most are no-talent FACES for the public to eat up... and even those WITH talent, if they're new on the scene (from the early 90s onwards,) will still have somewhat synthesised voices... The music industry doesn't seem to cater to individuality, or uniqueness, any more... it wants everyone to sound the same, in accordance to whatever the model-standard is, at the time.

Lyrics, too, are atrocious, by "yesteryear's" standards... So much repetition, so little originality... Mostly based around a terribly repetitive beat, which rarely requires any talent to produce. (Again, it's mostly computer-aided.)

The music industry has been seeing a steady decline in talent, originality, and amazement, over the last two decades... and yet, an incredible increase in profit, and no-name, no-talent wannabes shot to super-stardom - Tells you something about how easily the general public is driven to want, to consume, whatever the media throws at them, eh?

Don't even get me started on the banality of Hollywood, also within the last two decades. Most "blockbuster" movies are simple re-makes of movies from two or more decades ago... Add some flashy effects, some generally poor acting (in comparison,) and you get a global hit of unoriginal garbage. Where are the original scripts? What happened to great actors? (Like in the music industry - There are some great actors, but you'll find most of them are from BEFORE the great slump in quality, that we've been seeing, these last two decades.)

Entertainment is all about cheap, poor quality products, hyped up to the global media, with only one desire - huge profit... Gone are the days where music, and movies, were made to entertain, to show one's ability to create something truly memorable... Now, we all cling to the global media's every word, whilst the entertainment industry spoon-feeds us with ideas of flashy gimmicks, delusions of grandeur, hiding the terribly mundane nature of everything it produces.

When will people wake up, smell the roses, and force the industry to revert back to a state of decency?

Will they ever? That perplexes me, sirs and madams, to no end.

Shawnee123 05-25-2010 08:25 AM

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Don't even get me started on the banality of Hollywood, also within the last two decades. Most "blockbuster" movies are simple re-makes of movies from two or more decades ago... Add some flashy effects, some generally poor acting (in comparison,) and you get a global hit of unoriginal garbage. Where are the original scripts? What happened to great actors? (Like in the music industry - There are some great actors, but you'll find most of them are from BEFORE the great slump in quality, that we've been seeing, these last two decades.)
Oh, I agree re: movies. Hint: Independent Film.

classicman 05-25-2010 08:58 AM

They are playing to the masses. Musically speaking, its a new world. It is all flash and sex pretty much. The world seemingly doesn't want talent - they want their immediate desires fulfilled.

Clodfobble 05-26-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode
Kids these days! Get offa mah lawn!

Sorry man, but almost every single word of your post could have come from a guy in the 1950s talking about Elvis. It's true that nowadays a lot of work is done by computers rather than the studio musicians (aka uncredited working stiffs,) but you are deluding yourself with these fantasies that it used to be so much different. A little good and a lot of crap comes out of every generation, and it's not this generation's fault that you've conveniently forgotten all of your own generation's crap.

squirell nutkin 05-26-2010 02:26 PM

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Snap.

TheDaVinciChode 05-26-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 658588)
Sorry man, but almost every single word of your post could have come from a guy in the 1950s talking about Elvis. It's true that nowadays a lot of work is done by computers rather than the studio musicians (aka uncredited working stiffs,) but you are deluding yourself with these fantasies that it used to be so much different. A little good and a lot of crap comes out of every generation, and it's not this generation's fault that you've conveniently forgotten all of your own generation's crap.

Being 22 years old, this generation is my generation. (Well, moreso the mid 90s, but still, well in to the "digitally enhanced" era of the music industry.)

The use of electrical instruments (electric guitar, keyboard, etc,) is not the same as digitally enhancing a voice... These instruments must still be played, with precision, to produce a harmonious sound. They may not require tuning, like guitars and pianos of old, but that did not touch on the musician's talent to play them - Voices, on the other hand, filtered, re-filtered, phased and altered with a computer program, can sound however you wish, with no talent required from the person producing the voice. A man can sound like a woman, a dog can sing opera.

No, sir, it isn't the same. Not at all.

Lyrically speaking, there was little in the way of repetitive, three-word songs, right up until the last two decades... Lyrics still had meaning, much as they did in the very-olden days... so, again, it's nothing the same as comparing the last 20 years of music, to previous years of music.

Charisma, musical talent, ability, experience, and time, all played an important role, in the 50s, in the 70s, in the 80s... and before that, too; before the rise of "pop" music, before "rock 'n' roll." Sure, old people may've complained that it wasn't "music" in comparison to classically composed music, but that was more due to the profound change in music, rather than the lack of ability, of talent, of those producing it.

This isn't a change in music... it's a change in quality, in production, in talent.

squirell nutkin 05-26-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode (Post 658645)

No, sir, it isn't the same. Not at all.

That would be Ma'am to you.

monster 05-26-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode (Post 658645)
Being 22 years old, this generation is my generation.

dream on, honey. Welcome to OldFartLand.

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Lyrically speaking, there was little in the way of repetitive, three-word songs, right up until the last two decades... Lyrics still had meaning, much as they did in the very-olden days... so, again, it's nothing the same as comparing the last 20 years of music, to previous years of music.
Wrong again. It's just that the three word songs didn't survive as well. (Da Da Da, anyone?) This parody should give you an idea that there was lyrical crap around before you were born, sonny....



TheMercenary 05-26-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode (Post 657947)
What's been mildly perplexing me, ever since America decided to "police the world," is, well......

I would be quite happy if they cut off all aid to all countries for the next 5 years and see how the "Hopey Changey Thing" works out for them....

No deployments.

No payments to the fucked up UN.

No payments to anyone.

KumbyafuckingAHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... :D

Clodfobble 05-26-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode
Lyrically speaking, there was little in the way of repetitive, three-word songs, right up until the last two decades... Lyrics still had meaning, much as they did in the very-olden days... so, again, it's nothing the same as comparing the last 20 years of music, to previous years of music.

These boots were made for walkin'
That's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots
Are gonna walk all over you.


Yes, that is lyrical genius right there.

monster 05-26-2010 08:57 PM

The rest of the world would be much happier. Trust us on this. Oh and pay us what you owe us.....

TheMercenary 05-26-2010 08:59 PM

I agree, pay us what you owe us...

monster 05-26-2010 09:07 PM

which is...?

TheMercenary 05-26-2010 09:13 PM

First it would have to be measured...


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