Would you rather I say Fuck you I ain't no sheeple? :haha:

whatever gets you through, man
 

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paraphrased
 

Blumenthal: you gonna give us those notes?

Barr: No.

Blumenthal: Why not?

Barr: Why should I?

:thumbsup:

Barr: Hey Blumenthal, I'm not Sessions. I'm not going to volunteer to put the knife up to my throat so that you can easily slice it.

(mic drop)

Hey Barr, maybe a few months in jail for contempt of congress will convince you. Or maybe the US Attorney of DC will just raid your office and home.

Not much of a public servant working for the people

"Not much of a public servant working for the people"
 

sez who?

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"Hey Barr, maybe a few months in jail for contempt of congress will convince you. Or maybe the US Attorney of DC will just raid your office and home."

cuz, we, the rulers, having abandoned our proper role as employees long ago, can't abide any dissent...we call the shots, we make the rules...'the people'? that rabble? they do what we say, when we say...you, Barr, are a unseemly obstacle...persons like yourself cast doubt on us...unacceptable, sir...totally unacceptable

This is actually a great idea and I hope it is pursued.

There are a lot, say a million people nationwide on the extreme low side, that are watching this whole sedition exercise and asking a lot of questions.

Now, these people are like me, complete morons, but there are significant numbers.

We have a lot of questions from our perspective. I thought this whole charade was about Trump being in league with the Russians to win the election? Did Mueller not prove that was not true?

If Mueller proved this is true, why don't they just arrest all these folks and be done with it?

If Mueller can't legally charge Trump because he is the president, why not charge his kids? Charge someone, right? Someone relevant.

If Democrats believe that it's the House's constitutional responsibility to oversee the DOJ and interpret Mueller probe and their evidence is solid, why not indict? And arrest?

But back to your point, not indicting but arresting Barr would be a great event for the people.

At that point it would be completely clear beyond any doubt to millions of Trump supporters that if you are opposed to big government and corruption, it makes absolutely no difference who you vote into office. That not only even when you have majorities in all 3, you're not going to be able to steer the government size and policy to your desire as a citizen, smaller government, more freedom ( from government ) and more independence.

That the monster cannot be reversed for certain, but even halted at it's current size and power.

At the point that people ( that aren't Democrats from California ) truly understand that there is no way out of this, that they can arrest Barr and Trump and anyone else that believes as they do, things might change.

If the beast can fabricate a situation where the entire Trump admin can be arrested, what does that mean for little old smaller government you?

What would this mean to your little brain thinking those smaller government thoughts?

It might mean, :lol: and I know this is outright crazy town, that sooner or later you'll be consumed by the beast. Voting doesn't matter.

That may ( or may not ) energize people to resist on a smaller scale with a greater intensity. Why not, you have nothing to lose, you can do anything.

So I do like your suggestion and would like to up it one. Arrest the management and staff Fox News and all similar minded small government websites, Youtube channels and pamphleteers. :D

Create a situation where people will no longer be concerned with their well being, or their home, or their pension or car or anything. Because they know they will lose all of these things in time regardless of their compliance.

And finally, this reaction could be completely symmetrical. Not arresting Barr could very well energize people too. We're in a tough spot as a country.


Which people? That is the question. ;) Your people or mine?

Spex, my man, it isn't worth it.

Why isn't it? It's a good idea, arrest Barr. Then Trump and everyone.

You disagree?

Slang,

What I think Griff means: it's not worth it for Spexxvet to argue the point(s) with atavistic me or sensible you.

And: Griff is right. I won't move, you probably won't move, and Spexxvet probably won't move, so...

stalemate

No thank you, I won't be playing.

Oh yes you will; or, we'll hold you in contempt of The Cellar.

Red rover, red rover, send Griff on over.

So many threats, accusations, and speculation. All of this will be settled on 15 May when Mueller testifies before Congress. That should give talk show host, liars, and wild speculators enough time to commit to their opinions. Then we can deal with what he really says.

"15 May when Mueller testifies"
 

I wasn't aware a date had been set...gonna be interesting to see how badly the propagandists beat up on him when he doesn't follow the script.

It will not be in the Senate. With extremists trying to wreck shit, nobody knows whether a projected date will remain valid in two weeks.

We cannot even admit this president has more respect and admiration for America's adversaries than he does for America's longest time and closest allies. If Richard Nixon can have a Saturday Night Massacre and things were never this contentious, then who knows what will happen next?

The French President recently said Europe needs its own unified military force. He then listed potential adversaries. United States was listed. That is how bad things have become in Washington due to a shortage of moderates in government.

This whole thing is a Chinese finger trap for anti-Trumpers. The harder they work against the trap, the most trapped they are by the trap itself. They get angry and work harder.

It remains a troll Presidency and nobody understands how to fight that. You don't fight trolls by attempting to out-troll them! That is always an utter failure. You fight trolls by ignoring them. You send them to Coventry.

The first mistake is getting angry at the troll. The second mistake is getting angry at the people with you.

"We're stuck in the mud!"
"Well FLOOR IT FOR FUCK'S SAKE!"
"That's not working!"
"SO PUT IT IN REVERSE AND FLOOR IT!"
"Now everything is covered in mud and we're still stuck!"
"THAT'S YOUR FAULT!"

"It will not be in the Senate."
 

So '15 May' is for House testimony?

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"a troll Presidency"

yes: exactly

Yes, wouldn't it be interesting if IG Horowitz's report came out just before Mueller's testimony? That report that exposes the witch hunt.

You know, the IG report that details all the corruption in the FBI in the lead up to the Mueller probe that was triggered by a fabrication ( Steele dossier).

That would be priceless, ol' Mueller get's his thoughts and papers together on how he's going to put the screws to Barr and Trump but then, uh-oh...reversal.

Yes, it's just fantasy but Trump's people are getting much better at playing the media game and that is where the opposition has the upper hand. No evidence, mostly media spin. Video clips of Democrats scolding imaginary people in empty chairs.

Trump might even declass and release all the source documents that prove the weaponization. Wow, that'd be funny.

Or maybe they'll just arrest Barr and Trump(s). Any way you watch it, things are getting good. :corn:

It only took like 2 years for UT to get this through my thick head.

I'm sure that there's going to be some counter moves on this because it's a pretty serious situation, but Barr should be arrested before all this comes to it's conclusion.

It could have some unpleasant effects on those directly or indirectly involved with this witch hunt / soft coup.

"Depending on what Barr finds, his review of the Russia probe could give Trump ammunition to defend himself in continuing congressional inquiries -- and in a potential impeachment for obstructing justice. Barr told senators that Trump’s actions can’t be seen as obstruction if he was exercising his constitutional authority as president to put an end to an >>>>>> illegitimate <<<<<< investigation."

It's getting good. Not as good as life would have been without all this sedition but still good. :corn:

Resistance is futile. They will be assimilated.

The Incredible True Story of the Impeachment Collar Heist

An older aged lawyer and deep state operative named Robert Mueller walked into the US Department of Justice in DC.

He had a multi ream size report in his right hand and a strange bulge under the collar of his shirt. Mueller, 74 and greying, passed Attorney General William Barr a note;

"Here is my report. Part 1 is what I discovered in the first 2 months of my investigation, no evidence of collusion or obstruction. No indictments. Part 2 is what we are hoping to impeach Trump with. Speculation and embarrassingly biased investigatory work with biased personnel that could never be assembled without recusal if they were investigating a Democrat. Systematically omitting critical information that does not support the narrative that Trump’s guilty" it said. "We were hoping to keep working on it until November 2020 to keep a cloud over Trump’s presidency. But then you were confirmed." Then he lifted his shirt to reveal a heavy, boxlike device dangling from his neck.

According to the note, it was an impeachment collar. Barr, who told Mueller there was no way he was going to get his 18 pages into the media at that time, filled a few pages with truth—8,702— words and handed it over. Mueller walked out, sucking on a Dum Dum lollipop he grabbed from the counter, hopped into his car, and drove off. He didn't get far. Some 15 minutes later, Christopher Wray spotted Mueller standing outside his Geo Metro in a nearby parking lot, surrounded him, and tossed him to the pavement, cuffing his hands behind his back.

Mueller told the agents that while out on a Uranium One sample delivery he had been accosted by a group of CIA operatives who chained the impeachment collar around his neck at gunpoint and forced him to write his bogus report. "You either take Trump out with a report or the impeachment collar will take YOU out." they told him in a poorly performed Comey voice. "I'm not lying" The agents called Inspector General Horowitz and took positions behind their cars, guns drawn. CNN's Jim Acosta arrived and began filming. For 25 minutes Mueller remained positioned on the pavement.

It turns out this post was prescient.

According to Glenn Greenwald, the Inspector General's report reveals that the FBI knew its FISA document to spy on Crater Page was bullshit, but strategically hid that, because it wanted to continue spying.

If you like the President, you should be angry right now. If you hate him, you should be furious!

For what reason? Because the President does address unscrupulous use of FISA warrants? Or because the President claims the FBI was spying on him?

George Jr's administration authorized significant wiretapping without a FISA warrant. Why is it any worse today?

https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPoli...tm_name=iossmf

Interesting reading here.