Damn Tony, $104 million for a blue one!! :lol:

Fanboi alarm! WOOT WOOOOOOOT

Well they came out with their quarterly safety statement and here, from accident data 2020-Q2, it's pretty interesting:

Well.... I dunno. There are still some gotchas in this data; like, you won't/can't use Autopilot under the most unsafe conditions, like when the roads are poor.

But this does make me feel better about Autopilot. I'm using it more.

Today I had an unexpected moment with it. I wanted to unwrap a cheese stick using both hands, and I started driving the car with my knees, as one does. Then I realized: duh, let the car take over the driving. The car is a waaay better driver than my knees. Even with 40 years of experience in knee-driving.

Knees are poor drivers, even pro knees are risky. Their problem being the brain is disconnected. It's like a brain off to college just calling home once a week with the knees doing the best they can between calls.

People don't realize hands free phone calls do the same thing. When the person on the line mentions a third party you're spinning your mental rolodex looking for that person. When they mention a place, back to the mental picture files. When they describe an interaction with someone, you're building a stage set picturing the interaction playing out in your head.

That is called distracting driving.
Yeah, I know, you do it all the time and nothing more than a HONK, oops sorry, has happened. But it will.

That's why I'm an elbow driver. ;)

Model 3...

Model X rollover test

Wow, really low center of gravity. She must be amazing on corners.

Weebles wobble but they don’t fall down.

It's my understanding from the car mags that they are exactly that, amazing.

Got all that battery weight down low, a little tug on the rope and it rolls right back in the sand or whatever that is. Laying on its side on hard ground would be harder to upright it, might have to ask your date to get out and help. ;)

About the hands free phones, yes and YES this.
Which is why I’ll never set my phone up for hands free use in the car.


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http://cellar.org/img/wrecked-tesla.jpg

Reddit post: "My daughter and I walked away"

how do you engage the autopilot while underway and do you have to take one hand off your cheese to do it?

Pull down twice on the right stalk. It's one pull-down for adaptive cruise control, so it's kinda like, one pull for the car to take the accelerator, two for it to take the wheel as well.

Further, grabbing the wheel and actually steering will disengage autopilot, and tapping the brake disengages both autopilot and cruise.

I still don't understand how that accident happened. He caught the truck's rear Mansfield bar and ripped the drivers side off. Was the truck crossing his path?

Anyway here's the factory in Nevada...

The sheer level of attention to detail is amazing!

The car has an app, to manage it while you are away from it. On its home screen, the app shows a picture of the car. Since my car is blue, the picture is of a blue car.

If I back into my driveway, the car is shown facing away. If I drive in forward, it's shown facing forward.

Here, see below, I backed the car in.

Also, the green light at the rear taillight is on, because the car is charging, and also, there's a cable leading up to the charging port.

If a door or trunk is open on the car, it's shown as open on the app picture.

http://cellar.org/img/teslaapphomescreen.jpg

By facing forward, you mean nose toward the camera, but still facing left, right? Because surely you want to see the little charger plug from either angle?

Yes, imagine the car above turned 90 degrees counter-clockwise

Thanks for taking the trouble to track down another camera to take a picture of your phone, and then get that image off that other device and into the Cellar.

:D i appreciate your appreciation, I was briefly puzzled at how to take a picture of my phone with my phone (and never really remembered it can take a screen shot)

:D That is J's phone though, and her hand holding it.

😂 What is your charging situation?

I have a 120v that is close enough to the car, which is all I have used so far (excepting Superchargers). It does charge 4-5 miles per hour so it's more than enough for my regular commute. (I expect that charging speed to drop in winter though.) If I ever need faster juice, I can run an extension cord from the dryer's 240v/30 amp that will charge at 22 miles per hour. But that has to run out a window, so it's not a permanent solution.

The 10 foot extension cord to carry 30 amps was $75. srs bsns

Now you need the solar roof and powerwall!

Right! But first I need to own a house to put the roof on.

Order of operations issue. :)

I have a friend who built off the grid a few years ago. He spends time on battery maintenance. A plug and play solution is much more attractive to me.

Hmm, there would be less sun available in VT or northern NY... better move south

Elon Musk's solar roofing tiles are pretty attractive. Haven't looked lately at the overall price/viability, but I assume it's just a matter of time.

xoB pointed out to me that our state has a rebate program. I had forgotten. It took several tries to get the documentation right but I will get back $750 from the state.

xoB is a fine gentleman. I promise to use these funds only for good, and not for evil.

From The Economist of 30 Jul 2020: American law says batteries must last 100,000 miles. This is accomplished by not letting batteries discharge too much. By not charging too fast. And by charging and operating most often at temperatures closer to 50 degrees F.

To be able to charge on a 90 degree F day, I can only assume a Tesla has some sort of battery cooling system. Most of the article recites GM claims. As if GM is well ahead of everyone else with its Ultium batteries. Production starts in Ohio next year.

On owner forums, it's widely held that charging to 80% is ideal practice, but charging to 90% regularly is fine, along with an occasional charge to 99-100% to go on longer trips.

Battery retention:

http://cellar.org/img/tesla-impact-report-retention.jpg

Yeah, no I'm staying in Union territory. :) Mostly for the snow. Wind is also an option, I'm seeing a fair amount of solar even in less than ideal places. It must be getting cheap enough for that.

That's one of those it's getting cheaper but also getting better.
If you pull the trigger now will the price drop next month? Maybe even a big jump in efficiency next month.

Good choice! I've had a Volt and Volvo S60 T8, currently an Audi e-tron. I drove the Model 3 and was really impressed (I've been in the car business for 30 years). I held off on getting one because at first they didn't lease them. Now they lease them, but the payments are high plus you can't buy it out of the lease, so I'll just purchase one instead. It should arrive in 2-3 weeks.

- I might be wrong, but I think it's cheaper to charge on 220, but then you have the cost of upgrading. I'm sure you did, but make sure your extension cord usage is safe.
- under those hubcaps are some nice wheels. You'll need to buy a center cap/lug nut cover kit for $40-50 if you want it to look nice.

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I'll probably get this wood kit. Lots of stuff on this website:

https://www.rpmtesla.com/collections...le-overlay-229

Awesome sir !! After 2000 miles I'm still like a little kid with it, making up reasons to drive places.

That car ^ has the chrome delete kit, which makes it look really amazing.

I actually bought the lug cover kit, but I haven't taken off the aero covers yet. They save a lot of range and so it's this weird balance between saving range and looking really cool.

At my current place, I'm limited, because it's a rental. I could ask the landlord to install a charger, or more likely an external 240v outlet, but I'd have to make a deal of some kind with him. For 120v charging, I made sure to buy the highest quality 12 gauge cord, as short as necessary.

For the first week of ownership, I had an old 100 foot extension cable to use. That only charged at 9 Amps. Once I changed it out for the 25 foot, 12 gauge cable, that improved to 12 Amps.

Yeah, I guess you lose 3% or range, which doesn't bother me. You must have gotten a long range model- I texted my salesman regarding the software upgrade for faster acceleration, but he said it wasn't available on the standard range plus. Maybe later I hope! The Performance model accelerates really fast and the upgrade gets it just under 3 seconds to 60mph. I'd love it, but it costs a ton more.

I heard the chrome delete will soon be an option, so I might just buy a kit instead. There's also a wind noise kit that I'll look at.

When you let the thing go on autopilot, does it obey the speed limit based on its knowledge of the speed limit in that area, or do you have to tell it how fast to go? Does it know to slow down in construction zones, for example?

I think it will now default to 5 mph over if you set it? I forget. But I have had it slow down when speed limits change.

BUT you can always override while driving, and set cruise higher; I know I do.

BUT Autosteer will not work over 85 MPH. I have not tried to hit that; I generally won't switch on Autopilot at anything higher than 70, at this point.

It used to only get speed limits from GPS+Open Street Maps, but as of four days ago, it also recognizes speed limit signs.

I wouldn't try it in construction zones, they tell you not to. Here's an interesting story about someone who did:

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors...on_worker_and/

Oh and yes GP, I did get the long range. It was between the SR with full self-driving and the LR. I picked LR, I may have been wrong.

The question of how good the Full Self Driving will become, and how quickly, is a current fascination. I forget if I said it in the thread, but they are doing a full rewrite of the system, and Musk has it, and has hinted that it's awesome.

I joined the club today. I need the secret handshake and a bottle of the Musk cologne.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-.../i-9SBpQx5.jpg

Good luck with it. :thumb:
I think it's backwards, car should be darker and the wheels should be bright and maybe shiny.
Hmm... I did paint my Corvette white with silver painted wheels. nevermind.

Name?

I dunno... maybe Zeke? He was a dog I had until a few years ago. He was mostly white with some gray. Be nice to have a namesake.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Pets/Dogs...e_and_girl.jpg

Yeah but if someone dents your door you're libel to lose control. How dare they dent Zeke!

I knew a dog named Zeke when I was about that young lady's age.

Dis be he:

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He was run over by a Chevette. Buckled the roof, the ins company totaled the car.

Great looking dog, terrible way to go.

Gromit well done. Club membership accepted.

Abstract Ocean has all yer add-ons and extrys. I have bought a screen protector and J says I should get the puddle lights.

You'll have to fill us in of your "refuelings" on the NH trip.

Three stops on the way up (Darien CT, Worcester MA, Lincoln NH) because we didn't know if we'd be able to plug in at the airbnb (turned out we could, but we didn't know that). Also I wanted to enter Franconia via the notch, so it was I-93, a slightly longer route. Total of about a hour, partly because the last charger was not as powerful as advertised

Looking at two stops for 30-40 minutes total on the way back (Springfield MA, Darien CT) because I-91, and we can plug in at home

The Darien charger is super-powerful (250kW, "level 3") and at a service plaza right on I-95

Trip up Mt Washington auto road:

started with 72% battery

arrived at top with 57%

arrived at bottom again with 65%

Only touched the brakes once on the way down. All regenerative braking. For the third of the way at the bottom, all you smell is burning brakes. People don't take seriously the signs telling you to pull over to cool off the brakes...

BTW to everyone, the auto road is about the damn coolest thing you can possibly do, and I highly recommend it. It is stunning to see the scale of the land, to look at all the mountains from atop the highest mountain. I'm putting Pike's Peak on the bucket list, because damn.

It's a shame, really, but I have never done that auto road up Washington. I've got tons of pictures of Washington from other locations, and remember hearing the insane weather reports from the top of Mt. Washington every night on my local TV station. They get some insane weather.

Bucket item for sure.

How long is that road? That's a lot of draw down. Jets have mission planning software for estimating fuel usage has Elon gone there yet? Put in your proposed route so you know if you'll clear the last mountain.

It's 7.6 miles and you gain about 4500 feet in altitude. Teslas do not yet take altitude into their estimates, I believe; abetterrouteplanner.com does

A lot of the experience is the drive itself; the road is thin, barely enough to let the oncoming cars pass safely, and a section of it is unpaved. There are no guardrails; there are often boulders to prevent absolute calamity, but the whole time it feels quite dangerous.

You make a turn and suddenly there's a clearing and you are looking at a view that takes your breath away. Suddenly the wild granite peak of Mt Adams next door.

I wanna go there

Harley?

Not on the day I go, please.

Maybe rent a Camaro for the day.

Thanks for the feedback, UT.

Yes, Mt Washington and Pikes Peak are both rabidly recommended.
You have to keep in mind your experience is largely affected by weather.
It's not like a Museum where you can allocate an afternoon on a set day in your schedule. You may arrive, go right up, and have a great time. But you may have to wait till morning and possibly till the day after tomorrow. So it's good to plan on spending a couple days doing shit in the area and watch for windows in the weather forecasts.

I found you can format a USB memory stick and have it store dashcam footage and save clips as needed. You can also feed it Sentry mode footage from 3 cameras while the car is parked. I'm not sure if the Sentry mode requires alerting the people outside the car- I'd have some concerns it could provoke vandalism, but I wouldn't mind recording stuff while the car is parked.

Try it, set it up to record outside and come back in an hour and see if it tells you you're on candid camera.