It should, but it will be slightly lower quality, after changing format twice.

HM is correct...it is an audio CD, I just chose to build it from my rather extensive MP3 collection rather than dicking with my rather extensive CD collection.

Quality will be a bit lower, but it should be essentially unnoticeable unless you are playing an unconverted track side by side with the ones on my disc.

I would say these discs should be in regular cd player friendly formats.....i plan to listen primarily in my car, so, mp3 won't work for me......that also would be a lot harder to fill a disc.

you in, monkey? zippy, you're in, right?

Sounds interesting , ok I'm in .

How do we comment about these songs ?? I meen one week we get some cool clasical the next we get a disk of death metal or some such .

Oh and do we HAVE to fill the disk ??? wouldn't just 5-10 tunes be representitve of a perticuler time line in our life , or theme we want to put out there ?

I suppose I'm game.

What if we don't all like the same music?

that'skind of the point, isn't it?

It would be rather boring if we *did* all like the same music, wouldn't it? :)

JuJu I think that is the point , to expand your horizens a little . Hell you never know you may like some of the more obscure tunes that meen things to some of the other cellerites .

you put as much or as little as you'd like. my disc will be full.

the commentary and reviews should be interesting to read, but not obligatory. I just think we should avoid naming songs specifically, but i'd like to know what to expect in general terms when i'm expecting a disc from someone.

THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION

gambling is frowned upon.

No naming of the songs? But what if someone really likes one, and wants to buy a CD, but doesn't know who it is?

Besides, the song title, artist and other info could possibly be relevant to the reason a particular track was included...

That sir is what a cd lable is for . The cd burning soft ware i have tries to get you to make lables for the disk as soon as it has burned .

clarification. no naming the songs ONLINE. i would want the name and artist included with the actual cd, though. so i can go buy it if i like the song.

Cool ,
LJ since you STARTED this can you lay out how it will work , rules etc....

I know it has been said BUT it was fragmented and could be confusing , i know i am a bit Corn-fused ( but HEY that is normal for me ):3eye: :3eye:

semi final list
 

ok, so far we have:
JnGeorge
UT
Case
Wolf
Beestie
Sycamore
Lumberjim
blue58
stevedallas
H_P
Slarti
Cam
Elspode
jinx
zippy
juju



now...the order of the list.....i just got busy here....can someone do this for me.....make it random.

Mine's done and burnt and contains 12 songs. All of which are extremely slow in tempo.

This was an interesting project for the morning.

Some of you will hate it, others will love it to death.

Darn you for having time on your hands and having this already finished!!!!!

I think they should all be burned as audio cds ... the point is to have a SMALL number of songs, thereby increasing the presumed quality of the offerings, rather than a scattershot of everything on your hard drive.

My car stereo does NOT recognize MP3s, so I'd be stuck with the 'puter as a listening medium.

Why screw around?

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Okay folks...after talking to Jimbo, here's the plan:

I will write all your names down and put them in a hat. I'll shake 'em up, and Rho will pick the first name. Then she'll pick a second name. Whomever is picked second gets the first person's CD. Then she'll pick a third name, and that person will get the second person's CD. And so on. From there, we will create a schedule.

Results to be announced later today.

Anyone who wants to participate after I post the schedule, we'll try to fit you in as best as possible. Absolute cut off date is 6pm EST, March 1st.

Alright, lets get this rolling, UT's freaking done already, I'm going to do 10 for starters, have MP3's already, have to figure out how to make an audio CD, but....I WILL BE DONE TODAY, so if you've got any mailing details ready send them to me.

Now, hi ho, off to work

Mine is also ready.

Let's do mailing details next week. I think we should see how many others who don't normally read the Cellar on weekends want to get involved.

If you all want a blank... if nothing else you could print this and write your titles on it.

http://cellar.org/2004/cmepblank.gif

This was hastily done, but hey.

You can probably find your cartridge at TurnTableBelts.com. They've had most of the things I've looked for there. I think they even have some cassette deck stuff.

the list must come first.

list position will dictate who's adress you'll need, and who will need yours. when the list comes out, send your address to the person above you. if you're first, send it to the last name. confirm receipt of the address form your sender, and start mailing!

I'll do a summary tonight in a new thread that we can check back to easily. Or, toad can use his magical powers to do it for me on this thread.....

I need to find out if perth is participating.

yeah, the spouse thing complicates it a bit. those of us that have a spouse on the list will have to basically miss a period, while we have our spouse's cd. or we could just team the spouses up as one(2 cds)? thoughts?

I think we should be put in the list as separate randomly placed entries.

I have a tentative tracklist put together, but I still need to finalize it, burn, label, etc. Mine's looking to be a genre-buster, containing some songs that have special meaning to me, some songs by artists who aren't so well-known but deserve some new ears, and some that are just songs I've been enjoying lately. Some are very old, some very new. I have alarmingly broad music tastes.

That's a good idea... the two CDs from a husband-and-wife pair stick together. Since they'll have to reach all the same destinations eventually anyway, this will save on postage, and will prevent anyone whose spouse is participating from having "dead spots" on the rotation. Good thinking, Jimbo!

Me too.

Yeah, and this would mean each spouse would have different people in front and behind them. I think this is how we should do it.

If couples participate, I think their CDs should be sent separately. The additional cost of shipping can't be that much. And it ensures that everyone gets 2 weeks with one CD. The only "unfair" thing with this system is that some couples will get 4 weeks total with a CD. But I think this is better than getting 2 weeks with 2 CDs.

Mine is also done. I have made a decorative "U" card insert for the back of the jewel case, and a foldy card for the front with interesting cover and informative backside content, but nothing inside the folded sheet (again, I'm lazy and busy...bad combination).

CD is labelled with just the bare essentials identifying it as Elspode's Cellar Collection #1, in Sharpie.

I have placed a folded sheet listing the tracks with my brief comments thereof inside the folded cover piece for anyone who gives a shit.

I'm looking forward to this!

The amount of production ability spread amongst this group is somewhat daunting ...

My CD is burned, labelled in sharpie, in a blank (thin) jewel box.

I don't have a printer connected at this time ... no room on the table, and I rarely print stuff out.

The "title card" is going to consist of something that I will hopefully print out at work tomorrow ... assuming I remember to email it to myself.

I may even splurge and use the colored paper.

HP, you think YOUR tastes are eclectic? You ain't heard nothin' yet.

Heh... I was planning to write my name on it in magic marker! :cool:

HooHah, I'm done! Burning now, damn I planned on 10 but it became 16 tracks, don't know who to send it to first but they are gonna be one lucky sum'a'bitch.

Also including a letter/album notes page. Will probably zip everything up in case recipient has a problem reading the CD. Is a verbatim CDR in audio format, but I have he folder of mp3's and notes. Haven't made an audio CD in ages so I'm somewhat worried about compatibility.

Will probably spend a wee bit of time on artwork. Please don't label your CDs (adhesive), this is just asking for trouble.

Awlright!! Just need an address...anyone know what postage should be for one cd, one piece of paper, one jewel case?

FWIW, I didn't get too talky in my notes, but whoever recieves this will know quite alot about me. You'll probably be bored too tears, but informatively bored.

Let the fun begin.

That's what I did. Labels just deteriate (sp?) the disc and can cause problems with the drive. I think they also can throw the balance off too.

Just popped my homebrew CD into a DVD player and it seems to work fine, course it alphabetized the tracks so my track list is screwy. Will try to create something with UTs blank.

One thing I learned doing this, my laptop speakers absolutely suck!

Listening to it now on the stereo, dang this is good stuff.

I am having WAY too much fun with this, I gotta go do something productive.

Over, and Out

I'm not in this for a number of reasons but I have a general question. How do you mail CDs safely? Padded envelope? Package?

we get dvd's from netflix all the time in a simple envelope. they're fine. i was figuring i'd use priority mail, but i love wasting money on postage.

spouse will be treated as individuals, then, but, syc, make sure they're not consecutive on the final list, please.

I can't wait to start mine up.....cool label, toad!

I am not sure I understand.

see, as couples we each have to make a CD, therefore, we should each get to send and recieve a CD. We treat it as if we are all separate people, rather than couples. Is that what you mean? That's what I was talking about, too.

Yeah...I was just disagreeing with HP.

Hey Syco... :D

I'm just a disagreeable sort of chap that way. But don't worry, you'll love my CD.

You guys all like nSync, right?

*cough*

And now that we got that part straightened out, perth decided not to really participate, but he and I will make a 2 disc set for you guys to sample. :)

Fucking Perth ruining it for everybody. :)

In order to ensure an active listening experience for all of you, I've decided not to normalize my disc, thus ensuring you are paying attention as you adjust the volume between songs.

I think it is going to enhance that whole 'guerilla music exchange' feel...

He'd just send out the Osmond's greatest hits anyway.

Or Edie Brickell.

You just don't want to pay the registration fee to Real Audio, you cheapass bastard ...

Here's another question ... how are we going to handle the inevitable comments ... email to the originator of the disk? Although I'd be interested in what everbody has to say about everybody (as usual) I don't want the surprise associated with getting the CDs spoiled ...

(wonder how much duplication we'll have too ... I'm guessing relatively little)

Not true...I'm just too lazy to reinstall my hacked copy of Sound Forge and run all these damn tracks through it. :D

I've already had so much fun with this, I'm going to make my #2 collection tonight, in anticipation of the enormous success of the first round.

This will actually give me some time to put thought into the next batch, instead of going with what struck me right off the bat.

This is easy, LJ, the dumbass that started this simply creates a thread titled "I Got It!", we post there.

Mine is done & waiting to be mailed, I gave it the wife test, she loves it, now I've had to make 3 copies already because of word of mouth.

This was fun, I think I'd forgotten the power of music. This was a very emotional experience for me, sort of a get to know me, get to know myself kind of thing. And I'm not some candy ass feelings type guy, but worked on my disc all day and was surprised by the emotions I had doing it.

Life aint so bad.

I was thinking of including two or three sheets of paper with a form that says:

Handle:
Favorite Track:
Least Favorite Track:
General Comments praises, and Gripes:

This is messing with MY cool factor, now. I am going to have to get him a new image. :D

Actually, we use to have one of her tapes.

I am working on my disc right now. I am sure some of you will hate some of it, some of you might like some of it, and nobody will probably like all of it. But I used these guidelines for mine: I forced myself to think back to when I was younger and what defined me then...and I worked my way into what I am into now. So it is all over the board. Since it is such a jarring experience, I will include an informational sheet to kind of explain why each song is important to me. I made it a point to choose songs that have a lot of meaning for me.

Anyone else using a similar approach?

I am, albeit unconsciously. I probably didn't go into enough detail about the whys of my selections because I didn't want it to run to too much reading. It is about the music, so I thought the music could speak mostly for itself.

A friendly head's up: SF only allows 20 (or so) mp3 writings before requiring that you register the mp3 writer module seperately. If you are using SF to create the disc, start with the WAV file and do NOT convert to MP3 prior to writing to disc or else the mp3 writer will stop working (not that you couldn't use something else, tho).

And one other point. Looking ahead to the second round (I'm assuming that this will be at least successful enough to eek out a 2nd round), I would like to nominate the idea of a greatest hits from an artist the Cellarite chooses. I am having a crisis of finding new music to like and really need some exposure to other stuff.

I'm looking forward to this. A lot. I'm ready to get enlightened by everyone's tastes and can't wait to give everyone a glimpse into my sick, twisted world. :-)