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xoxoxoBruce 01-02-2007 02:04 PM

But that scar is 2 or 3 inches long, isn't it? More than just a hole in and out. :confused:

xoxoxoBruce 01-02-2007 02:13 PM

I checked...:blush:
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Periodical cicadas damage trees above and below ground. The most obvious damage is that caused by egg laying in small twigs. This damage causes twigs to split, wither, and die, causing a symptom called "flagging." Flagging is especially serious on young plants (four years or younger) because more of the branches are of the preferred size for oviposition, 1/4 to 1/2 inch in diameter.
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The female's ovipositor slices into the wood and deposits the eggs. One to several dozen eggs can be laid in one branch, with up to 400 eggs being laid by each female in 40 to 50 sites.
Cicada eggs remain in the twigs for six to ten weeks before hatching. The newly hatched, ant-like nymphs fall to the ground where they burrow 6 to 18 inches underground to feed.
Here's a cut away of two egg clutches. Now I see how they do so much damage.

Happy Monkey 01-02-2007 02:15 PM

They slice a slit, and lay several eggs in a row. The bigger scars might be the work of two or three cicadas on some especially attractive real estate, or maybe cherry just scars really badly. There are smaller scars all over; I just took pictures of the especially bad ones.

[edit]As you say...

glatt 01-02-2007 02:17 PM

That scar has the appearance of one long gash, but it's really multiple holes in a long line, spaced very closely to one another. When the scar is fresh, it's much easier to see the multiple holes. The larvae that come out are tiny. Like just a single mm or so long.

I saw a couple of them after they hatched and dropped down onto the roof of my car. Only reason I was able to see them is that they left a trail in the morning dew. At the end of a foot long dew trail, there was a little squirming speck of a worm.

edit: damn I type slow.

xoxoxoBruce 01-02-2007 02:26 PM

Well, I wouldn't cross any bitch with an ovipositor that can do that.:eek:

glatt 01-02-2007 02:29 PM

Here's a site with some good pictures of the larvae just before and after hatching.
http://www.sdym.com/cicadafear/cicada46edited.jpg

http://www.sdym.com/cicadafear/cicada54edited.jpg

xoxoxoBruce 01-02-2007 02:34 PM

Yeah, that gang could really raise hell with a tender young twig.....good thing they don't hang around the bus station. :worried:

wolf 01-04-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 303598)
Well, I wouldn't cross any bitch with an ovipositor that can do that.:eek:

Eeeeauuw.

Alien nightmare flashbacks.

Happy Monkey 04-10-2013 08:18 AM

It's not 17 years yet, but a different brood is coming to the Eastern seaboard.

glatt 04-10-2013 08:25 AM

Do you remember the 1996 brood? Because I don't.

I think it's a lot of media hype, like before a storm.

The 2004 brood was absolutely insane. I remember that one like it was yesterday. And the reason I remember it is because I had never seen anything remotely like it up until then.

Do you remember any cicadas from 1996?

BigV 04-10-2013 10:10 AM

I love this thread!

BigV 04-10-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 860092)
It's not 17 years yet, but a different brood is coming to the Eastern seaboard.

The command center during the oncoming onslaught on the interwebz according to Wired magazine.

Happy Monkey 04-10-2013 11:23 AM

2004 (Brood X) is the big one in the DC area. I don't think we'll see too much out of Brood II around here, but maybe someone on the Cellar will.

glatt 04-10-2013 11:25 AM

I think you're right. But the Washington Post, and Post Express both put it on the front page today. Like it's going to be a big deal here. I don't think so.

It's too bad. I like the cicadas. They are neat.

richlevy 04-19-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 86961)
At work we have been known to take various insect carcasses (including cicaidas), tie black threads to them, and wave them at certain bug-senstive female crisis workers in an attempt to torture them.

And you guys are on the outside of the locked rooms?

Happy Monkey 05-29-2013 09:56 AM


kickstarter

glatt 05-29-2013 09:59 AM

Have you seen any? A FB friend who lives in Springfield VA is complaining about them, but I haven't even seen one yet.

Pico and ME 05-29-2013 01:11 PM

If they come around here, we have a invasion of fbb's * to gobble them up.

*fucking blackbirds - grackles or starlings, I can never tell. But they are loud and have bullied all my beloved sparrows and finches away

Happy Monkey 05-29-2013 01:23 PM

Nope; none yet.

glatt 06-06-2013 07:58 AM

Not sure if this will work, the preview isn't working. The vimeo link is: http://player.vimeo.com/video/66688653

Cool video on cicadas.



The latest map I saw shows that we aren't going to get any cicadas here, but if I take a half hour drive, I'll be deep in cicada country.

Sundae 06-06-2013 09:18 AM

Gosh, Glatt, that's beautiful.

glatt 06-06-2013 09:28 AM

I'm sorry we aren't getting any of them here. They are very interesting.

Lamplighter 06-06-2013 01:31 PM

Yes, the photography throughout is remarkable.

I learned several things...

* triliums grow in more places than just Oregon !
... (here I thought PDX was so special )

* the eggs are laid up in the tree branches

* the cacophony lasts for just a couple of weeks
... ( in Iowa years ago I could not imagine living with it for very long )

BigV 06-06-2013 08:59 PM

thanks for the video fellas

Happy Monkey 05-28-2017 09:39 AM

Apparently a subset of 17-year cicadas come out 4 years early. Four more years 'til the big one, but even this small subset is making a lot of noise in my neighborhood.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4243/3...42a222e0_z.jpg

glatt 05-28-2017 11:40 AM

Yeah. It's weird.

Lots of them here too. Is this normal? Or is the weird weather confusing them?

I saw an amazing nature show on PBS last night that had very good footage of the cicada life cycle. I always wondered what those tiny little worms the size of a sesame seed ate for 17 years while they were underground to grow into a full sized cicada. Apparently it's tree sap sucked from the roots of the trees they drop out of when they hatch.

Happy Monkey 05-28-2017 12:18 PM

Apparently four years early is the most common deviation from 17.

Happy Monkey 05-28-2017 12:21 PM

Low quality audio from my window in this video.

Gravdigr 05-28-2017 02:00 PM

We got nothing here in good ol' south central. Thankfully.

Gravdigr 05-28-2017 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 989655)
Low quality audio from my window in this video.

Is that bird real?:eyebrow:

Happy Monkey 05-28-2017 06:20 PM

Yeah, it's just lazy.

glatt 08-29-2020 11:52 AM

They are coming back next year, aren't they?

We had to cut down two big trees in our back yard this summer because they were becoming a liability, there was so much rot at the top.



So with them out of the way, we are going to put a new fence up around our backyard, and want to plant a bunch of native plants and trees. Really fix up the back yard. Test the soil first and treat as needed, All that stuff. We're starting to think about it all and make initial plans.

But the cicadas will maybe kill any saplings we plant in the next 9 months, won't they?

Happy Monkey 08-29-2020 12:14 PM

Yup, they're back next spring.


If they'll be small enough, you could consider wrapping them in gauze or netting. They're big bugs, so you don't need especially fine netting.

glatt 08-29-2020 12:16 PM

Duh. Why didn't I think of that. That's a great idea!

lumberjim 08-29-2020 12:46 PM

The murder hornets will sort them out

monster 08-29-2020 09:34 PM

at the start of the last visitation, we were still relatively new to the US and went on a free community nature walk/smores thing with the sprogs (youngest a baby in a sling).

We learned about smores there. And cicadas -never even heard of them before. And we learned that some people don't think things through properly ....as they told all these young kids about groundhogs and groundhog day and then asked if they'd like to meet one...and brought out a very sad and very, very dead stuffed specimen.....

Then they told us all about how the evil developers were going to build a new high school on all of that land. The high school all the kids eventually went to :o

xoxoxoBruce 08-30-2020 11:04 PM

Is that firewood glatt?

monster 08-31-2020 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 1057174)
....as they told all these young kids about groundhogs and groundhog day and then asked if they'd like to meet one...and brought out a very sad and very, very dead stuffed specimen.....

***wait I'm getting old and confused, I forgot we did two of these things. It wasn't a groundhog -that one was on groundhog day, but there was something stuffed that had seen better days and was irrelevant to the theme of the walk. :(

glatt 08-31-2020 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1057224)
Is that firewood glatt?

I hope so, but not for me. We don't need that much fire wood for our outside fire pit. It was big 4 truckloads worth. I hope somebody gets use out of it.

xoxoxoBruce 08-31-2020 11:41 PM

Yeah, there's a few thousand dollars worth of firewood in 4 truckloads.

glatt 09-01-2020 06:58 AM

That must be why they charged us much less than I was expecting to spend three days taking that tree down. Only $4500. Another outfit had quoted us $8k.

5 guys for 3 days.

I have no idea where the wood is going, but it would suck if it was going into a landfill.

I’ll tell you this though, I have no concerns about hurricane season for the first time since we bought this place.

Diaphone Jim 09-01-2020 02:19 PM

They bucked it up what appear to be too thin rounds to make firewood.
From what I saw, you and the neighborhood were lucky to avoid damage and/or injury.


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