Which makes them amoral scum, IMHO. And it's not whether they believe Y is wrong, it's whether they believe that fighting Y will help maintain or increase their funding from fringe groups -- their only source of power, by the way.

The ACLU began nobly, answering real problems and fighting real injustice. Once their mission was accomplished (i.e., blacks have attained their rightful equality in the eyes of the law), they didn't want to let go of their lobbying power. So now, they'll jump into bed with anyone, no matter how repugnant, to keep their jobs and maintain the illusion of relevancy.

Screw em. :rar:

Wow! The ACLU's mission was accomplished! There's no more real injustice.

That's good to know.

And it's definitely whether they think Y is wrong. They defend people from across the political spectrum, even though they are primarily attacked from the right.

Ahem.

The ACLU began in 1920. It was not established for the express purpose of winning racial equality. In its first year, the ACLU fought the campaign of harassment and deportation ordered by U.S. Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer against politically radical immigrants, supported the right of Industrial Workers of the World members and other trade unionists to hold meetings and organize, and secured the release of hundreds of activists imprisoned for their anti-war views and activities.

In 1925, it was the ACLU who hired attorney Clarence Darrow for the defense in the infamous Scopes "monkey" trial in Tennessee which, if you will recall, had to do with teaching evolution in the public schools.

I'm glad that you feel the work of the ACLU is done in this age of racial harmony, intelligent design, and the Patriot Act.

I disagree, and so do the people who continue to donate money to this private, non-profit organization. :eyebrow:

Ted Rall's comic is a largely one-note affair: the Bush bashing of the lunatic fringe, in the manner that is fashionable there, and it does not rise above that. Doesn't strike me as exercise of either intellect or soul, but it sure smells of some alleged adult who's never taken off the Red Diaper. I've some experience of Soviet political cartooning -- Rall's stuff wrt The Leader Of The Free World looks like underground Soviet political cartoons, as approved by the higherups of the Ministry of Culture.

No, I do not love Ted Rall. His website comment after Reagan's death about Reagan "turning crispy brown in hell about now" gives deep offense, and to speak ill of the dead so bespeaks an appalling lack of class. I'd first written "want" there, but I don't see the man wanting class. He merely lacks it. While the man has a right to show the entire planet what a damned ass he is, he won't be selling me any collections of his work. I'll invoke Marichiko's sig about how some people are like Slinkies. It's apposite here.

Actually, they gain much of their funding by requesting (and getting) the judge hearing their case to order that the losing side pay their legal fees in addition to the damages award, if any. So, not only do they get the standard percentage of the damages (up to half), they get all their billable hours, experts, and supplies paid.

They bill rather exhorbinantly, by all reports.

Yes, they're commies.

Next question?

Yeppers, the American Way is to go to war and kill people while imprisoning those who question the government's decision , silence dissenting views, and refuse workers the right to organize in order to negotiate reasonable working conditions and wages.

I know! Let's send everyone who disagrees with Junior's little adventure in Iraq to Alaska, round up everyone with a surname that sounds funny to detention centers in the middle of the night, and award the contracts for housing the resulting prisoners to Halliburten and company. That will show the damn Commies!

You know, Wolf, I think you'd be much happier living under a small Latin American dictatorship somewhere - say Paraguay, perhaps. Brazil is interesting, too, if you want a larger arena.

Marichiko [a very, um, ethnic sort of handle, hmm? The sort that might have gotten you interned in CA forty-five years ago], I don't seem to remember that you're writing from a Colorado jail cell. Excuse me while I fail to suppress laughter at how easy you are to poke a hole in, you LST.* If we can't tell it's satire, we're going to take it straight.

*Landing Ship (Tank). A large amphibious-landing vessel, which was also about as fast as a Liberty Ship, and thus nicknamed Large Stationary Target by bored wardroom wags.

I have this picture of Wolf as the new Eva Peron. ;)

"Don't cry for me ..... what the (*&)(*& is the name of this place again?"

"We" who, white boy? :lol:

i will never boycott liberalism, and i agree with everything michael moore says. america is full of brainwashed, half retarded robots. you dumbasses just cant face facts. this evil, disgusting country, the usa, is gonna go down. i do not support our troops, and i do not support america, cuz most of america is to fucking stupid to form their own opinion, or to glance away from britany spears or american idol long enough to know how bush and this sick ass government is controlling us and draining us for our money. we are slaves to the rich here in america. if you dont have money in this superficial, materialistic, contradictory hypocritical fake ass country, you're not considered a human. everyone who works for or supports the united states WILL go to hell. this country is the best example of evil you can get. fuck america. bush planned the 9/11 catastrophy to have an excuse to move his robot pawns, the military, bomb iraq, take it over, and steal all of iraq's oil. finishing his daddy's business. doing the illuminati's biddings. this whole country is fake, and it is a good example of a new rome, cuz this weak ass, evil, corrupt country of the unfree will fall and collapse. 2 examples of how stupid and brainwashed americans are: the new saying here in this pathetic land of the weak and brainwashed; freedom isn't free. well, if freedom isn't free, then it's not freedom, right, you fucking dumbasses? how stupid does a whole country have to be to fall for some dumb ass shit like that? it's a paradox if freedom isnt free. so, if freedom isnt free, then its not freedom. this country IS NOT FREE!!!! you can't even smoke a plant that is grown COMPLETELY naturally (marijuana) for god's sake, cuz the government doesn't know how to tax and mooch off of it. second;equality for everyone... if every man in this hypocritical, fake ass weak country was created equal, why haven't we ever had any black presidents? why no women presidents? i hate this fucking country and i hope all pro-bush patriotic cock suckers go to fucking hell and burn forever with their retarded monkey president, bush! iraq will rise and kill off this nuisance country! I AM PRO-IRAQ! I HOPE ALL OUR DUMBASS TROOPS DIE! THERE IS NO TERRORISTS EXCEPT FOR AMERICA, THE COUNTRY THAT HAS NO HUMANITY, THE COUNTRY WHERE MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PEOPLE, THE COUNTRY THAT LIES, THE GREEDIEST COUNTRY FULL OF THE MOST HEARTLESS, SELFISH, RESOURCE WASTING, OBESE, BRAINWASHED IDIOTS ON THIS PLANET!!! AMERICA WILL BURN IN HELL!!!!


p.s. : why does 1% of this country own 93% of the money, and the rest of us 99% only own 7%? where is the equality there?

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fuck bush and fuck america...

Urbane Guerrilla, is that you?

another robot. go get yourself killed for the pockets of bush, you brainwashed idiot. thats all youre good for.

I wasn't going to post on this thread as I don't know enough about your politics. But I just wanted to applaud deimos420.

Not for the sentiment, but for managing to couple lower case ranting with near perfect punctuation (that angry and still managing correct use of colon & semi-colon when writing a list?)

Of course I do stress near perfect. "Daddy's" is correct where I might expect it not to be. "Cant" and "dont" on the other hand....

Almost seems fake, doesn't it? Like no real person would have that opinion?

Happily, no, it's not, Glatt. Just some "robot mind of robot slave, might as well be in an atomic grave" for all the influence he'll have. Guy comes off like a stupider, less grammatical edition of Rubato over on Cyber Soap Box -- about the same emotional maturity level.

The poor SOB can't even understand that the equality is in the opportunity -- not the result. Equality of result happens from excessive government interference, which should not be done.

I'm assuming, of course, that he isn't faking something up to make the Left look even more stupid. It's better for RW'ers' integrity if they assume the LW needs no help in that direction -- remember the Paul Wellstone Funeral & Pep Rally? This is the kind of thing the Democratic Party thinks is appropriate behavior these days. Bleah.

Yeah, and the nerve of them.....stealing Rove's playbook. Disgusting. :eyebrow:

BS, Bruce.

Yes you are.

We can't send them to Alaska. They'll get in the way of the oil drilling.

deimos420 doesn't care about any of the other shit. The legalization of marijuana is his only real issue.

I have to agree with wolf here. deimos420 is beyond the pale, pale, pale. If deimos420 must rant and rave I INSIST he/she understand and employ the very basics of the English language that he/she flogs, with impunity, to a fibrous pulp. If deimos can/will not, I will flush his/her opinion down the terlet along with all the other ebonic-speakers and similar ilk(s). Or, whatever. :Flush:

Halliburten has its ways around that. Not to worry. :cool:

Man, just think about what the world <a href="http://accstudios.com/index.htm">might have been like</a>!

<i>It is 2021, tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of 9/11. America is under oppression by ultra-liberal extremists who have surrendered governing authority to the United Nations. Hate speech legislation called the “Coulter Laws” have forced vocal conservatives underground. A group of bio-mechanically enhanced conservatives led by Sean Hannity, G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, and a young man born on September 11, 2001, set out to thwart Ambassador Usama bin Laden's plans to nuke New York City.</i>

Man, check out <a href="http://accstudios.com/f/comicpreview_page_covera.htm">Liddy on the motorcycle</a>. What a badass.

that is because, unlike most americans, education is more important to me that what's on TV. you see, most people in this country are patriotic because they can't form their own opinion, and their personalities derive from someone they see on TV that leaves an impression on them (eg. chris rock, backdoor fags, brittany spears, etc.). ppl in this country are fake. example: most of the christian population in this world exists in the USA because here, ppl are to stupid and slow to realize or even care why they chose christianity. most ppl do it cuz their family or friends are christian and they want to fit in. FORM YOUR OWN GOD DAMN OPINION! THAT IS WHY BOY BANDS BECAME SO POPULAR AGAIN! because anything that MTV says is cool, most teenagers will think it's cool. just like what ppl hear on the news, they take it as fact. don't you idiots know that the news is fake? it's ran and regulated by the government, along with all media. the tv is the way the government brainwashes. oh, and voting doesn't matter, either. the illuminati chooses who the next leader is going to be. most americans are followers and sheep. their shepard is the TV. i am a leader in my own mind. i make my own decisions and form my own opinions. most of your minds and opinions are formed by TV. it's just an easier way for you simple minded robot pawns of the USA and Illuminati.

first off, using those words don't make you look smart, just like a stupid fat bitch that's trying to look smart. what's a terlet, dumb-fuck? ebonic speakers? what the fuck are you talking about, you retarded idiot? god, what a moron you are! lol! second, i wonder why everyone's downing on me. WAIT! I KNOW WHY! BECAUSE WHAT I WROTE WAS THE TRUTH AND YOU FAKE ASS, BRAINWASHED REDNECKS ARE MAD AT ME ABOUT IT! don't be mad at me. be mad at yourselves for turning out the way you are; a bunch of fat, obese, selfish, fake, follower, fronting ass monkeys that can't form their own opinion without fear of someone criticizing them. damn, you people are EXACTLY what i was writing about. a bunch of lazy, resource wasting, selfish bastards with no one else in mind but yourself. did the TV tell you that the USA are the good guys? is that why you stand behind the USA so much? cuz the television told you to? that's why! keep on believing the governments lies and keep tuning into your master everyday that force feeds you your fake, bullshit opinions. here is how fucking stupid you rednecks are: most of you i KNOW are christian(easy to figure, since most of you are boring, lame, and the same as 90 percent of the population[robots]). murder is a sin. but our government has murdered 100's of thousands of iraqis, and americans for the sake of oil. but you dumbasses agree it's right cuz theyre "terrorists" (even though america is the terrorist capitol of the world). but, if you stop warping your dimwitted, slow, retarded minds with tv for one minute and stop only thinking about yourself and your loved ones, and think about the points and views of the iraqi ppl, then you'd realize they think we're evil. who are we to say we are right and theyre wrong? same goes for them. evil is in the eye of the beholder, folks. i can give a fuck less about your unthoughtful, simple-minded scoldings, but just think about it. i am not a hippie. but i do not agree with my son being killed in iraq a few months ago just because america and the illuminati wants more oil and more power, so they can rule the world. buh bye, sheep.



p.s. I adore watching darkies drown on the evening news 1 5.26%
He's put the terror back in the word "terrorism!" 4 21.05%
It's about time someone got rid of that stupid bill of rights! 6 31.58%
I love my country, but I love my SUV more

damn, how selfish and evil can you get with a poll like this. i love my suv more? all of you cocksuckers need to be brutally murdered along with bush. see all of you in hell, you fucking racist, cracker ass bitches!!!!

Enh. It started strong but as far as trollish rants go, it tails off fast. Attention whoring, self-absorption... and what's with not understanding the sarcasm and point of the poll? That sort of undermines the whole "I am brilliant" section. And if Bush kills your son you should put that up front, not thrown in at the end like an afterthought. I give this rant a D+.

D+ is generous. He obviously didn't "get it" at all. Tried to fit his view of the general population to posters he knows nothing about in a thread he doesn't understand. :headshake

I'm touched. :blush: After he edited his rant, he PMed me.

Gee, and I thought my sarcasm on this one was a little heavy handed. Good thing he hasn't read anything where I used irony or made use of my dry sense of humor.

By the way, deimos, my pals around here just call me an "ass" without the other perjoratives. It saves on typing time. :rolleyes:

Deimos has probably spent too much time on sites where people say stuff like that seriously. On the web it's hard to say anything to outrageously sarcastic that there isn't someone saying it seriously somewhere else.

I like the way he fixates on everyone's weight.

Nothing like an original insult to grab people's attention. Oh, sorry - I meant that was nothing like..... etc etc

Doesn't matter who you are, you're always someone's bitch I guess :)

This year, I am proud to say that I am donating a portion of all proceeds from my Xmas panhandling to my local chapter of the Society to Help Humor Impaired Twits (SHHIT). Funds so gathered will go toward the purchase of classic issues of National Lampoon, Mad Magazine and a collection of George Carlin videos to be distributed to people like Deimos. In this way, even the most socially stagnated and politically correct among us can learn the valuable tension-relieving tools of sarcasm, gross exaggeration and comedic hyperbole, thus becoming useful, contributing members of semi-intellectual venues such as The Cellar.

Won't you please help with a donation?

Well, to be fair, I guess he DID totally figure out that I use big words to make myself feel loved and important. Obviously he's a keen, sensitive, Mensa member who is kindly trying (mostly in vain) to illuminate our dark, primitive psyches. And I simply MUST start with the daily aerobics. I mean it. He can tell I'm fat from waaaaay over there. How embarrassing for me!

[primitive]What's the deal with Mad Magazine sucking ass now? I loved that mag once upon a time.[highjacking]

Dude clearly didn't read the board before posting.

If he had he would have easily identified me as the fat racist cracker ass bitch, Brianna as the strong and courageous heroine who is making a better life for herself, and Marichiko as the liberal weenie.

america sucks. you all are boring and lame. GO IRAQ!!!

p.s. you guys really are the lamest of lame

i won't ever come back cuz you guys just don't know how to throw in good come backs, or give me a challenge. YAWN! oh, and i don't have a son, either. so whoever believed me, HA! now if you boring people will excuse me, i'm going to play half-life 2. i just can't believe i grabbed the attention and anger of a bunch of middle-aged losers like i did, and i'm only 15! hahaha!

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Googling around, I found a pic of deimos420. Just wanted to put a face to the name. You're up early for a pothead - it must suck having your dad wake you up on his way out the door.

And people wonder why Wal Mart hires so many illegal aliens.

I, for one, am shocked. Shocked!

I'm back to being impressed with his punctuation - and people think teenagers these days are all text-maniacs?

I, for one, am extremely unimpressed. At 15, I was already writing for my school's satirical paper, THE FULCRUM (the official school paper was called THE LEVER). Hey, anyone remember Tomas R.? He was 15, also, I think, and actually brighter than this kid. Tomas! Come back!

Hey, deimos, sorry the witty comebacks around here aren't up to YOUR standards. Er, "you are all boring and lame"? :rolleyes:

I think perhaps something more direct and less filled with difficult references such as Mad Magazine. Perhaps something like, "Deimos totally sucks ass. Like, dude is a lamer, y'know? Totally."

Deimos, repeat after me..."Paper or Plastic? Would you like to supersize that for only 59 cents more? Which shovel should I use in the ditch? Where'dya want me to dump this manure load again?"

Now you can't say you didn't get any preparation for your eventual career choices while you were here at The Cellar.

Actually I was lame for a while after I was knocked down by a car. Perhaps that referred to me specifically?

"you guys are lame". SG, you definitely don't qualify.

BigV, in parts of the midwest, "you guys" is generic. Like in the south where people ask you if you want a coke. Then ask what kind.

It simply proves the old saying - you can't trust anyone under 30.

shows what type of shallow selfish person you are. also, your fat, unhealthy, cottage cheesed ass needs strong MEN (unlike you, you're probably a pale, soft handed, weak middle aged cow) to shovel that horse manure for you while you eat your heart clogging mcdonalds and jack off to your daughter. buh bye.

:zzz:

I agree with everything Deimos420 had to say, and it's pretty sad how he came on here initially expressing his own views, and he got attacked personally for them... As if he struck a nerve... Do i sense a hint of truth in what he says that most of you just don't want to face? I believe so... Also it's pretty fuckin' pathetic how when he posted his views, all of you on this forum totally disregarded his views and went straight into your lame-ass one-liner knit-pickings instead of actually posting YOUR views, but that assuming you actually have views of your own. My advice, peel your fuckin' faces away from the TV and actually develop a personality.... You sheep think that life is what's portrayed to you on the news everyday, and it's pretty sad to think that I live in a country where I'm surrounded by fat retarded monkeys like all of you who think it's "just a joke" and just "sarcasm" to have a sick ass, conceted arrogant poll like the one above.... I wish I can see one of you pieces of shit floating across the Atlantic just to make ends meet for your FAMILY (since you wouldn't be able to do it in your own country, because America, being the only self-sustaining country in the whole world, likes to drain the economic strength from other countries to support fat nazi greasy lazy soccor-mom SUV driving softie pussies like you), and see you laugh about the sarcastic wittiness of the above poll. And as for that son of a bitch "paper or plastic" guy, i'd like to see you HAVE to lay some manure down or dig a ditch to sustain this SOCIALIST ECONOMY OF OURS.... Don't want to, do ya, you fat piece of shit? To out of shape, eh? So shut the fuck up, because if it weren't for them, you wouldn't be able to sit that big cottage cheese ass of yours in front of that TV eating your McDonalds and jackin' off to kiddie porn behind your cheating wife's back in the coziness of your nice home, would ya, you fuckin' useless lump? I'm sure not.... Just because someone has the mental capacity to see through all this prepackaged bullshit and shed some light on the truth doesn't mean all of you assholes in this forum have to feel intellectually intimidated and become hostile.... I know, you're all just to scared to face that you've been duped by this administration, been duped by this society in general, and willingly let it happen because you were more concerned with your SUV and your fuckin burgerking. NEWSFLASH: the news is nothing more than a daily entertainment show, IT'S NOT REALLY REALITY PEOPLE! It's all prefabricated misinformation spoonfed to you so you can look in the other direction while bush and the whole administration rams there cocks in you... But, I will leave all of you overprivilaged ignorant local minded idiots a little tidbit of real information (knowing how sore all of you get when presented with the ugly truth, but hey, it's better than taking all the bullshit they call the "NEWS" as truth)and I'm going to pose it in a question you will quickly answer yourself, and hopefully it will open your closed TV-fed minds just a little bit: How many innocent bystandards have been killed by Iraqis HERE IN THE UNITED STATES since we began bombing Iraq?

I'm not fat.

And most communities have free mental health centers. Peel your face away from the meth and find one.

There's also a thing called Zyprexa.

What is truly disturbing about the above rant is that bill thinks this country gave him a rudimentary education. It's just so sad!

Thank you so much for proving my point, Brianna... See? I tell a point, a clear and precise, logical point, and all this simple minded immature bitch can do is give one liners and personal insults... It's so pathetic... Why don't you just answer the question, Brianna? Are you too scared to think that you've been a puppet all this time? Why can't you apes just opine back instead of the 3rd grader insults you portray as being your views? Damn, I keep forgetting, your too self-important and almighty to do that, because that involves viewing aspects in other peoples point of views, and I can clearly see that you don't even have the capability to do that.... And to correct you on your ignorant statement, you old dusty floppy titty bitch, I'm 100% sober and am a MD... So, you can stick that rudementary education you claim I think I got from this nazi country and stick it in your dry rubbery twat, and clean some of those cobwebs out while you're at it... See, I can insult like a 3rd grader too, hopefully lowering to that level helps me communicate with your immature ass...

And besides Brianna, I don't care if your fat or not.... What do you care if I care, unless your just insecure....

Ok, Doctor Bill. If you had bothered to read any of the other threads in the Cellar you would know that a lot of us do not, in fact, like the current administration. We also gets our news from various sources. We are not sheep. Your increasingly distraught ravings, using third-grader vocabulary and isults ("floppy titty bitch"-? Show me where I make a similar insult to you) leads me to believe that you are mentally ill.

And, being that I do really believe that you are mentally ill, I will quit engaging you. My innate love of mankind does require that I point you in the direction of health. Good luck, Doctor!

Bill have you actually read any posts on this forum? If so I would be interested to know how you can lump together such diverse personalities as Marichiko, TW, Urbane Guerilla and Jaguar (to mention but a few).

And do you really think you will get intelligent and reasoned debate by introducing yourself with a long rant full of unsupported accusation and insult?

If you post like a troll you will be treated like a troll. There, enough time wasted on you in my opinion.

OK... First, to Brianna, for you to tell me that I'm mentally ill just comes to show how ignorant and high-and-mighty you must think of yourself, seeing that this is only my 4th post on this forum... There's your unsupported accusations right there, sundae girl, right from the horses mouth (Brianna).... To tell someone whose only posted thrice before this that they're mentally ill is about as unsupported of accusations you can get. And second, if you show a dislike for this administration, tell me why deimos420 was ATTACKED after he did nothing more than to express HIS dislike for the administration.... Thats pretty damn hypocritical if you ask me... And 3rd, for sundae bitch, UNSUPPORTED ACCUSATIONS? Support yourself on that accusation, sundae, support your accusation that MY accusations are unsupported, because I can guarantee that every word I type is articulate and fully supported... And Brianna, you're callin' my vocabulary 3rd grade? Well, just look at your lezbo friend "Sundae Cunt", calling me a troll... That's about as 3rd grade as you can get... By the way, I have read every one of your threads and they totally stray from what you just posted, you fake-ass hypocrit... So before you throw your UNSUPPORTED ACCUSATIONS out there, do some research or ask questions... It's called having an OPEN MIND

battleaxe bill == deimos420

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