The Cellar

The Cellar (http://cellar.org/index.php)
-   Home Base (http://cellar.org/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   The "Plane on a Treadmill" Question (http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=12670)

xoxoxoBruce 01-30-2008 10:45 PM

Yes it does, your forward movement is foot (wheel) driven and the plane's is not.

classicman 01-30-2008 10:46 PM

^NO^

classicman 01-30-2008 10:46 PM

The wheels are irrelevant.

Aliantha 01-30-2008 10:47 PM

if there were no wheels, the plane would fall off the treadmill you dill.

lumberjim 01-30-2008 10:47 PM

yeah....the treadmill is unable to cancel the plane's motion because the wheels of the plane negate any and all reverse motion the treadmill can generate.

classicman 01-30-2008 10:48 PM

the wheels are what power the treadmill in reverse - therefore a net movement of.......................
......................
.......................
......................
.......................
......................
......................
.......................
......................
.......................
......................
......................
.......................
......................
.......................
......................
......................
.......................
......................
.......................
......................
......................
.......................
......................
.......................
......................

yup still ZERO.


















cock

lumberjim 01-30-2008 10:52 PM

the wheels on the plane?

xoxoxoBruce 01-30-2008 10:53 PM

Plane wheels, freewheel. They have no effect on the movement of the plane unless you put the brakes on.

classicman 01-30-2008 10:57 PM

1 Attachment(s)
yes - de plane, de plane!

classicman 01-30-2008 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 428703)
Plane wheels, freewheel. They have no effect on the movement of the plane unless you put the brakes on.

The impetus created by the forward thrust of the plane's engines is negated by an equal and opposite "thrust" of the treadmill. The plane is "treading water."

lumberjim 01-30-2008 11:02 PM

not if the wheels are free to spin, it isnt.

Aliantha 01-30-2008 11:03 PM

You know how cyclists can get those rollers that they can use indoors to train on when it's raining?

Well, this treadmill thing is the same concept really in some ways. If planes were able to take off simply by the thrust created by engines from the treadmill, doesn't it stand to reason that airports would create some kind of giant set of rollers so they don't need long runways?

classicman 01-30-2008 11:05 PM

:rollhappy :rollhappy :rollhappy :rollhappy :rollhappy :rollhappy

Clodfobble 01-30-2008 11:23 PM

1 Attachment(s)
You were almost right, LJ. The Mythbusters episode didn't cause people to argue more--only people who obviously didn't watch it to continue to rehash arguments from the last eight thousand pages...

Hey classicman: SHUT UP AND WATCH THE GODDAMN EPISODE.

Ali, I'll make a small concession for you since you perhaps can't get the show in Oz. Cyclists--just like cars, just like people's feet on a treadmill--are pushing on the ground to go forward. The plane is not pushing on the ground, with its wheels or anything else. It's pushing on the air with those massively explosive jets it has.

You know where else planes can take off from?

WATER. That shit's just as slippery as a backwards-moving treadmill.

regular.joe 01-30-2008 11:26 PM

Huh, didn't see the episode..So, the plane took off from the treadmill?

I'd say I hate it when I"m wrong, but it happens so often that I've become used to it.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 PM.

Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.