Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 720274)

I'd like to second Sheldon's motion... so to speak.

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 720263)

So when Sheldon posts a cock-chugging pic, yes, after my 47 years of fighting for gay rights, my hundreds of gay friends and acquaintances, and ALL the time I've spent in theatre groups -- my instinctive reaction is FUCK, I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT.

Our thousands of years of culture has tried to put a layer of respectable behavior on top of these base, reptile-brain reactions, and sometimes we succeed at doing this. But to be offended by such a reaction is like being angry at the river for only flowing one way. Paddle against the stream if you must, but know that it'll be a hard time, and the river isn't going to change paths, no matter how you rage at it.

Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 720287)

Well anonymoo, it appears your photo didn't distrct them for long. Do you have any involving a chainsaw and a shetland pony?

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 720291)

I think full frontal would do the trick. It'd keep one hand off the keyboard, anyway, so they'd only be able to type half as fast.

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 720269)

Maybe we should have a single "unemployed violence mongers who are angry at the world" forum for people like you.

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 720295)

I get the feeling a lot of us type half-fast. :D

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 720109)

I don't have any panties that make my ass look that good. I was actually mostly just flattered that people thought i could pass that well, even if they were busy saying that "i" wasn't passing. I didn't reply sooner because I haven't been BACK to the cellar since this went down. But - and maybe i'm hypersensitive, compared to all you old farts, or maybe my pinko commie hippy school is to blame - as an LGBT youth, i find the tone and tenor of the way this forum treats gender and trans*, genderfluid, non-binary, and otherwise queer folks to be utterly offensive. Speculating on someone's sex, when they clearly identify as female, is, yes, offensive. Inherently and inevitably. I have been struggling with my own gender identity lately, and i'm increasingly sure i'm at least not a cis male, and i know for sure, if i were to post a picture of myself as a female, the MOST offensive and hurtful thing for all the initial responses to be would be "no thats a man." The problem isn't necessarily ill-will - it's much more likely sheer ignorance. I should go find some queer, trans*-friendly info to post for you. Someone's gender identity is not yours or anyone else's to police. If a male-bodied person identifies as a woman, to treat them otherwise, or even to speculate out loud, is INHERENTLY offensive. Joking in thread after thread about women actually being men is INHERENTLY offensive. I'm not appalled that anyone thought the anonymous poster was a man. I'm appalled that people thought it was their business to decide for the person in question what their gender was or seemed.


Trans* erasure, binarism, and transphobia are offensive and bigoted, not just to me but to the entire LGBT community.



and Dana: Thank you for saying "you are a good example of someone who is going to be beautiful when they dress feminine and handsome when they dress masculine." I keep myself up some nights wishing i could pass better, wishing i could look like the anonymous poster, struggling with my lumpy, ugly, butch man-body, but hearing things like that helps. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 720118)

welcome to exactly what i mean. standing up against offensive, bigoted posting is dismissed as coming of age angst. welcome to the new face of the cellar.