If you believe there exists a power greater than yourself, that's enough.

That's a tough one, but I'll pick gravity.

It beats love, playful harmonies, and the Republican Party.

What is the difference between a power “greater than yourself” with a name like God verses a power “greater than yourself” with a name like “gravity, love, playful harmonies, and the Republican Party.”?

In my mind, God (by whatever name or description) IS a higher power due to primordial existence, being all knowing, being all seeing, having some part in my creation,etc… I would not consider gravity a force greater than me because it does not embody consciousness, I would consider love a synonym for God or playful harmonies. I would not consider any group (such as the Republican Party) a higher force due to the fact that they are simply a creation or extension of “me” that reflects specific ideas/concepts/thoughts within me.

Anyone have reflections on this ?

The difference is that the latter all provably exist.

Undertoad,

To make sure I understand your response. You're saying all of those things, except God, exist ?

He's seen a republican.

He's seen all of these exept God .

But he ain't seen gravity. ;)

True about gravity. In fact , a lot of things we call a higher power ,including God, are never actually seen. We just perceive the results of there existence acting on the world around us.

Bingo.:D

There is no gravity. The Earth sucks.

Reply to: Bingo

It all makes sense now.....

:idea: Ding

Reply to: Wolf

You're the official optimist of the forum ?

I often go to the Optometrist, yes.

Provably exist, BS_TM.

If God exists, He would be a higher power than any of the other powers I mentioned. But I'm just answering xoB's guy's question. Gravity is, without a doubt, a higher power than myself. A higher power than all of us. We cannot deny it, we cannot beat it, and it affects every single piece of matter in the universe.

UT,

lol :lol:

I'm so dense sometimes. I thought "provably" in your other reply was a typo for probably...


....and a higher power can be interpreted many ways. Such as.... Gravity is a higher power than me because it moves planets and I can't, but I'm a higher power than gravity because I can feel the depth of a poem and deduce that 2+2=4.....

Enlightened consciousness is more powerful than the most powerful force of nature, because nothing else will allow us to ponder the question of which is more powerful.