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rkzenrage 08-01-2006 04:08 PM

I pity the poor schmuck that tries to repo something from my family, bad idea.
Better idea just to ask us to take care of the books or check.

MaggieL 08-01-2006 08:26 PM

Still itching to shoot a cop? Better make sure it's not just somebody who wants to use your soup kitchen.

rkzenrage 08-01-2006 11:57 PM

No... I don't want to shoot anyone, ever.
But, our garage in the house we will be in next will be in the house, plus we will be in a gated yard with dogs. Harming my dog then breaking into my home means you are there to harm my family. There is no other safe assumption. Especially if you did not use the call button at the gate.

MaggieL 08-02-2006 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode
I've always liked the comedic take on this sort of thing...namely, the fact that, when you bounce a check, they charge you for more of what they know you don't have in the first place.

So...you should only be charged for things if you have money? I'm going about this all wrong, then.

Actually they don't know how much money you have. They only know how much you're letting them keep for you.

MaggieL 08-02-2006 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage
But, our garage in the house we will be in next will be in the house, plus we will be in a gated yard with dogs.

So from within your gated complex you sneer at the "mean-spirited Republican" folks in Las Vegas trying to get the mobile soup kitchen out of their park?

Nice.

xoxoxoBruce 08-02-2006 09:44 PM

A fenced in yard becomes a gated complex. :rolleyes:

MaggieL 08-03-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
A fenced in yard becomes a gated complex.

He said it was gated, and has alluded to its fortress-like qualities in a previous thread. Do you really believe the fence doesn't enclose the house and garage as well as the guard dogs?

Look, there's nothing wrong with that per se...I'd love to be able to afford to fence this place properly, but I don't like dogs all that much. But held up against all the 'tude about the "mean-spritied Republicans" who don't wanna share their park in the other thread it's more than a little ironic.

Spexxvet 08-04-2006 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaggieL
... But held up against all the 'tude about the "mean-spritied Republicans" who don't wanna share their park in the other thread it's more than a little ironic.

Maybe he's just trying to keep out the repubicans. :p

MaggieL 08-04-2006 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet
Maybe he's just trying to keep out the repubicans. :p

"We have met the enemy, and he is us." --Pogo Possum

Troubleshooter 08-06-2006 09:12 AM

White Paper

July 17, 2006
Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America

by Radley Balko

Radley Balko is a policy analyst specializing in civil liberties issues and is the author of the Cato study, "Back Door to Prohibition: The New War on Social Drinking."

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6476

Executive Summary

Americans have long maintained that a man’s home is his castle and that he has the right to defend it from unlawful intruders. Unfortunately, that right may be disappearing. Over the last 25 years, America has seen a disturbing militarization of its civilian law enforcement, along with a dramatic and unsettling rise in the use of paramilitary police units (most commonly called Special Weapons and Tactics, or SWAT) for routine police work. The most common use of SWAT teams today is to serve narcotics warrants, usually with forced, unannounced entry into the home.

These increasingly frequent raids, 40,000 per year by one estimate, are needlessly subjecting nonviolent drug offenders, bystanders, and wrongly targeted civilians to the terror of having their homes invaded while they’re sleeping, usually by teams of heavily armed paramilitary units dressed not as police officers but as soldiers. These raids bring unnecessary violence and provocation to nonviolent drug offenders, many of whom were guilty of only misdemeanors. The raids terrorize innocents when police mistakenly target the wrong residence. And they have resulted in dozens of needless deaths and injuries, not only of drug offenders, but also of police officers, children, bystanders, and innocent suspects.

This paper presents a history and overview of the issue of paramilitary drug raids, provides an extensive catalogue of abuses and mistaken raids, and offers recommendations for reform.


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