It's been a LONG time since I've found smoke good enough to put me on a higher spiritual plane. :D

The only positive thing I've seen from having the legal age at 21 is that it keeps the fact that serving alchohol to freshmen is technically an illegal activity in the mind of the frat houses that otherwise don't give a shit as to whether you drink yourself into a coma. Most frats here run parties with the goal of turning a profit and usually sell drinks bar-style, so if you're concious enough to stick your hand over the counter with money in it they'll hand you whatever you want. They think twice about freshmen in that situation however because they can get charged with serving minors if that person then stumbles out the door into a cop who then asks where they got the booze. :2cents:

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JUST KIDDING, THERAPY AND/OR PROBATION OFFICER WHO MIGHT BE READING MY INTERNETS

Prank caller! Prank caller!

:D

Ladies and gentlemen, l'll be brief.

The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules or... took a few liberties with our female party guests.
We did.
But you can't hold a. whole fraternity responsible for the beha.viour of... a few sick, perverted individuals.
If you do... shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty... then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general?
(Deltas cheering)
I put it to you, Greg. Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society?
Well...
you can do what you want to us...
but we won't sit here...
and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!

Gentlemen!

Unfortunately the political element has spoken, "we do not have the rite to hold people accountable for their actions" my letter was rejected.

Toga! Toga!

Lower to 18. You can vote and kill for your country, you can have a legal beer.

21 pushes drinking out of public bars and clubs to house parties. Its already illegal so who cares! Party! In my residential, University area neighborhood I've witnessed the common vandalism, arson, assault, paddy wagon round ups and the annual missing drunk kid that winds up dead in the river.
Lower the drinking age and allow, encourage, adults to be adults.

The problem that always strikes when you lower it to 18 is that high schoolers turn 18 sometime during their senior year, meaning alcohol is suddenly as easy for underage high school freshmen to obtain as it currently is for underage college freshmen to obtain. (For a brief time the age was actually 19 to try to counteract this, but it didn't really help.)

I say, if it's not going to be 21, then it ought to be 12. Everything in between means all of the taboo fun with none of the safeguards.

And to cut down on drunk driving, a mandatory bar every two blocks - within crawling distance of home.

Well, here's one reason to consider them.

Of course, if MJ improves brain function, how come GWB isn't smarter (or is that 'more smarter').:rolleyes:

dang it rich! I just found that article and was thinking "sweet here's something the Cellar would like to see" but nooooo!

yeah thats a trip ain't it.. kinda the opposite of what you'd think would become of the stereotypical pot-heads.. all groggy and crap.

The POTUS was a coke head, with all the negative stereotypes that implies, not a pot head.

The only thing a raised drinking age would do is more money from tickets and a very unhappy group of teenagers.

Raising the age to 25 would make for minors to buy alcohol but that just makes things worse. If you keep something from someone and tell them it's bad, when they actually do get it they will abuse it more often and worse then not holding them from it. I wouldn't be suprised in more alcohol related deaths and alcohol abuse if the drinking age is raised.

Raising the drinking age will only create more problems. The sooner we allow people to drink in an controlled enviorment (bars) and away from uncontrolled enviorments (house parties), alcohol related problems will decrease.

Here some info:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...countries.html