Please. If conservatives are "trying to "protect" their value" why do they support a constitutional ammendment to ban same-gender marriage? Seems to me that they are trying to force others to their way.

Would that include involuntary taxation for the war in Iraq?

Because they see marriage as being only between a man and a woman. They are seeking to protect the sanctity of marriage. I personly think its a load of horseshit, because someone else's marriage shouldn't affect the sanctity of your own, but I do see their point of view. And like I've said liberals and conservatives are really no different, they just have different issues and reasons. Really our argument has turned into a squabble of symantics and I think that it should be dropped.

It's not semantics. The only "restrictive" policy that Democrats endorse is gun control. Everything else is permissive or protective of those who are not in a postion to be able to protect themselves (the old, young, infirm, front-line worker, minorities, environment). Democrats are not all homosexuals who want to marry someone of the same gender or have an abortion, but they endorse the freedom for others to do so.

repubicans are selfish and controlling. Their perspective is "don't tax me unless *I*, personnally, benefit from those taxes, and all laws should make people behave the way *I* think they should behave". Imagine that you and your husband other have agreed that neither of you want to live in a persistent vegetive state. You husband is in an accident, and ends up in a persistent vegetive state, and the you want to let him pass away in peace and dignity. The republicans want to step in and tell you when your husband can die. Talk about control!

Then they don't need to marry someone of the same sex... that has nothing to do with what someone else does.
Makes no sense. It IS a load of horseshit.

Democrats say "you shouldnt do that so I'll ask you not to, but i cant really stop you"

Republicans say "you shouldnt do that so I'll MAKE SURE you'll ROT IN PRISON if you try"

Yup... Amen.

A thing of beauty.
Too bad it's accurate.

That comic is out of context and you know it Ibram. How can you destroy the meaning of the storyline like that? It is wrong and you should know better. Read from the beginning of the story!

How is it out of context?

My whole point (and only point) has been that both sides are really the same, just goals and methods are different. There is "forcing" (fine I give up flint) done on both sides. Liberals want force other to pay taxes that support causes that some tax payers don't. I've know many many liberals who try to force you to support pro-choice, adopt a vegetarian lifestyle, give up religion, accept samesex marriage, they believe that their way is right and the conservatives believe that there way is right. BOTH sides are the same!

I did read from the begining of the story. I still don't see how it's out of context.

The point of the story is that that is not how Christians should act.