I thought about that but then I thought, this is covering like a 10" by 8" area and that's a lot of area and maybe that huge area of full coverage would look crappy and feel weird and not wash right and stuff.

Black-text and yellow-text is probably the best way to go.

Another option is for all of the text to be edged, like the "cellar", black with white edging, or yellow with red edging, etc. That might not hold up so well in the wash, though.

I read their bit about designing for dark, and they use some sort of new different process for printing on dark shirts. They make it seem promising. They also say you shouldn't worry about large sections of color.

They are a little ambiguous on how they treat white if you just design with it and then ask for it on a dark shirt. The background of that whole thing is white and I was expecting them to drop white when printing...

Buy the light color shirts from this link:

http://www.zazzle.com/Undertoad*

And the Cellar will get an additional 7% via their associates program.

The dark color design is not there yet, and I don't know why.

Any idea on how the text might reproduce on say ... the 15 ounce mug?

Also, a bumpersticker with the monkey and typewriter framing "cellar.org" might look quite phenomenal on my car.

Mug: http://www.zazzle.com/product/168221888978494222

waiting for a better version of the monkey

Someone should try to teach them the abbreviations for states. MS. won't work.

Okay, so I ordered the twofer short sleeved black and grey one with the yellow lettering. I will let you all know how it looks when I get it.

eventually, you will all need one of these. it's just a matter of time



dammit. i should have used an apostropholon in I;ve!

i just don't know which shirt to buy. choices, choices.

Bumpersticker update: unfortunately, the monkey has too much detail to see at sticker size. It would just look like a blob to most drivers.

how's about just "cellar.org" then?

I am in the midst of my buying frenzy, the first wave, anyhow. One thing I've noticed is that only the original tee design shows up under UT's ID, none of the other products are there when you click 'show all products' or whatever the clickable link says.

Bumper sticker

http://www.zazzle.com/product/128416037971317690

I think the other things don't show up because I rated them "R". When I try to make them featured products, I get an error message.

As I'm going through the steps, one required field is phone number. Why would they need that? I have no home or cell phone, and I won't put my work phone on there. Any way around it? Make up one?