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There is no oil in Afghanistan. Nor Pakistan.

(Mind you, I'd like to see "us" all well out of these countries.)

I was responding to this

"Our goals have been the Americans ... and the oil targets which they are stealing to gain power to strike the mujahideen and Muslims."

in the article that was quoted.

I'd rather live in Purgatory than Pakistan:rolleyes:

I've got a mate in Pakistan. Mostly it is quite livable, he says. But if I was there, I guess I'd be constantly thinking about escape routes.

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 576969)

There is no oil in Afghanistan. Nor Pakistan.

(Mind you, I'd like to see "us" all well out of these countries.)

No oil? Maybe. But there are many pipelines in the those countries.

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 576956)

Republicans only want to drill for oil though, which would take too much time, or build nuclear plants.

:lol2:

An hour long, but well worth the loading time for those who are interested in an intellectual assessment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWsmJIwe9Q4

No surprise here.

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Billions of pounds of American aid given to Pakistan for the war on terror have been used to bolster its defences against India in its dispute over Kashmir or looted by corrupt officials, according to a study by a government adviser.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6788782.ece

WOW, that is scary:

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WASHINGTON: Pakistan's nuclear facilities have already been attacked at least thrice by its home-grown extremists and terrorists in little reported

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incidents over the last two years, even as the world remains divided over the safety and security of the nuclear weapons in the troubled country, according to western analysts. ( Watch )

The incidents, tracked by Shaun Gregory, a professor at Bradford University in UK, include an attack on the nuclear missile storage facility at Sargodha on November 1, 2007, an attack on Pakistan's nuclear airbase at Kamra by a suicide bomber on December 10, 2007, and perhaps most significantly the August 20, 2008 attack when Pakistani Taliban suicide bombers blew up several entry points to one of the armament complexes at the Wah cantonment, considered one of Pakistan's main nuclear weapons assembly.

These attacks have occurred even as Pakistan has taken several steps to secure and fortify its nuclear weapons against potential attacks, particularly by the United States and India, says Gregory.

In fact, the attacks have received so little attention that Peter Bergen, the eminent terrorism expert who reviewed Gregory's paper first published in West Point's Counter Terrorism Center Sentinel, said "he (Gregory) points out something that was news to me (and shouldn't have been) which is that a series of attacks on Pakistan's nuclear weapons facilities have already happened."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/n...ow/4879235.cms

Man, Pakistan is going wobbly right now. There have been 8 separate significant attacks on police, military, government and civilian targets in the last two weeks. They've attacked the training headquarters of the anti-taliban commando force.
The general public have little faith that the secular government can protect them, but they have a good enough idea of what life would be like if the taliban took over, and they don't want that. Good luck to them.

Yea but it does sound like they are trying to hit back at the previous no-go zones in a big way. Hopefully it is not just political grandstanding. I would imagine that with the support of our drones it has given them the kind of air support they lack to go into areas that they previously never would have gone to and begin the process of kicking some ass.

Pakistan is certainly participating in some ass kicking - its own. This just in:

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ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – Suspected Taliban militants shot and killed a Pakistani army brigadier and his driver in the capital on Thursday as the military continued a major offensive against the insurgents in their strongholds near the Afghan border.

Exposing the country's frayed nerves, the stock market dipped nearly three percent on false reports that a bomb had been found and shots fired at a courthouse in the capital, Islamabad.

The false alarm came as the country remained on high alert for possible retaliatory strikes by Taliban militants while the army attacks their strongholds in South Waziristan.

The offensive is a test of the government's determination to tackle Islamic fundamentalists, and the campaign is being closely followed by the U.S. and other powers embroiled in Afghanistan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_pakistan_violence

Yea I heard about that. I think it just means they are ramping up the pressure on the insurgents. They are obviously feeling the pain. It is about time Pakistan stepped up to the plate.

The Army made a deal with two of the South Waziristan warlords, to stay out of the fighting and not interfere with the Army crossing their land. Divide and conquer.

I saw a Pakistani army spokesman saying that the offensive in South Waziristan is meeting less resistance than expected.

That's because they enemy guerrilas have all slipped through your lines and are now behind you, blowing up your cities. Duh. Or D'oh! They're playing whack-a-mole. With guns. And armed moles.