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Flint 07-27-2009 03:09 PM

Yeah, I'm sure cops never hear people try to talk their way out of stuff with complex excuses.

Happy Monkey 07-27-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 584444)
Isn't this a bit like the people who get mad at store clerks for checking their ID when they want to make a credit card purchase? The reason the clerk is doing it isn't because they are "out to get you" or whatever the hell stupid reason.

Yes, but I think there's not much disagreement over whether Gates was being an ass; just whether he should have been arrested.

Happy Monkey 07-27-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 584446)
That isn't what the neighbor said, who called 911: they saw a person wedging into the door.

I'm talking about the arrest, not the cops coming 'round in the first place.

TheMercenary 07-27-2009 07:57 PM

Wow! look at the racial bias...

http://www.timesunion.com/Shared/Gra...13aec51_TN.jpg

classicman 07-27-2009 09:43 PM

Shaw123 - you Rock!

Pico and ME 07-28-2009 04:11 AM

Arresting the man was a mistake. I dont like the thought that I could have my liberty so easily taken away from me.

Happy Monkey 07-28-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 584445)
Did you mean "after using the key to get in the back door after the front was stuck"?

I may have been wrong about that. I don't remember now where I saw the thing about the back door.

Cloud 07-28-2009 10:15 AM

It's common sense and a life-lesson not to mouth off to cops! Duh.

Unless it's really essential, which I don't think this was.

Shawnee123 07-28-2009 10:17 AM

Seriously. The trouble I've avoided just by being NICE?! Priceless. Yet, no cost to me.

Plus I show due respect unless I really have a reason to do otherwise.

Asshats do the opposite.

Glinda 07-28-2009 10:24 AM

Any of you ever had to bust into your own house? I have.

What would I have done if the cops showed up to arrest me?

First of all, I've lived here five years. People around here know me (and I'm so far off the beaten track that there are no strangers), so the odds of being reported are zero, but let's say it happens. What would I do?

My first inclination would be to assume the cop was at the wrong address (again, I'm in the woods at the end of a gravel road that's at the end of a gravel road - convoluted road schematics and damned few road signs). If he insisted that I identify myself, I'd show him my ID, then go into my office and whip out my mortgage papers.

What's so hard about that?

Oh yeah, I don't have a male ego. :rolleyes:

Shawnee123 07-28-2009 10:34 AM

I've broken into every place I've lived, at one time or another. I'm forgetful. :blush:

glatt 07-28-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Glinda (Post 584629)
Oh yeah, I don't have a male ego. :rolleyes:

:eyebrow:

Happy Monkey 07-28-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Glinda (Post 584629)
If he insisted that I identify myself, I'd show him my ID, then go into my office and whip out my mortgage papers.

What's so hard about that?

As per the transcript linked above, Crowley called the wagon after verifying Gates' identity. He should have been gone at that point.

Glinda 07-28-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 584662)
As per the transcript linked above, Crowley called the wagon after verifying Gates' identity.

Then Crowley's ego/attitude is at fault, here.

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 584662)
He should have been gone at that point.

Right-o. Time to give that cop the boot.

http://obeygiant.com/images/2008/08/...oot-poster.jpg

classicman 07-28-2009 12:08 PM

They were probably both a little wrong. Police once upon a scene need to be in charge to maintain order - period. Gates acted like an ass and got treated accordingly. Race was/is inconsequential except to those who want to see it. Watch COPS or any of those shows - People of all races act like this and get treated the same way - no matter who/what they are.


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