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Griff 04-01-2010 11:25 AM

I bet not, but April 15th is right around the corner. Like a punch in the nose, it focuses the mind.

classicman 04-01-2010 11:25 AM

And before you get all bent on the ARM spexxie - They do serve a purpose when used properly and in the right application.
Just because PEOPLE and Lenders abused their design for their own profits...

Guns don't kill people, ARM's do!

Pie 04-01-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 644879)
No offense, Pie, but are you just becoming aware of all this? ;)

No.
I get really bent out of shape when I see the double-standard being promulgated as FUD.

Personally, I am for (limited) federal bail-outs for individuals. For exactly the same reasons that TARP and/or corporate bail-outs made sense.

Shawnee123 04-01-2010 11:31 AM

I don't even know what FUD is. :(

Shawnee123 04-01-2010 11:38 AM

This?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_u...inty_and_doubt

jinx 04-01-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

And before you get all bent on the ARM spexxie - They do serve a purpose when used properly and in the right application.
Knowledgeable investors have been using arms to 'flip' houses for a long time. Makes perfect sense for them, paying the minimum interest for the short time that they improve the property before resale. Takes the right house in the right location and often a partnership between contractor/construction people and RE agents - same partnerships that are often already building new homes in the area so they're all ready to go with it.
The idea caught on and lots of clueless idiots thought they'd do the same thing without actually having any idea how to do it. Other people just bought too much house. I have a hard time excusing either of these. Predatory lending my ass - unless you were lied to outright, lending is a FAVOR.

It's like a few years ago when people suddenly realized that the rent-to-own option means you pay a fuckton more in the end and were mad at the businesses that offered even that option. Dumbasses.

classicman 04-01-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 644891)
Dumbasses.

That pretty much sums it up.

However, when I got my place the ARM was presented in a way that as my income rose ...
"You'll be making so much more in 5 years...it won't be a problem..."
"Think of all the money you'll save if you move..."
"Look at how much better a house you can get for the same payments"

Unfortunately for him, I knew what an ARM was an it was absolutely NOT right for me or my situation.

Shawnee123 04-01-2010 12:55 PM

Never mind. I really didn't care what FUD meant, anyhow.

Griff 04-01-2010 12:57 PM

Fudd

Shawnee123 04-01-2010 01:17 PM

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classicman 04-01-2010 01:55 PM

HA HA HA - WTFud?

[color="LemonChiffon"]I dunno either[/COLO]

I just lol'd at the color being "LemonChiffon"

Pie 04-01-2010 02:18 PM

You should take a look at the standard web colors. LemonChiffon is also known as #FFFACD or 255 250 205.

You may also enjoy such shades as PapayaWhip, Peru, PeachPuff, or BlanchedAlmond.

Shawnee123 04-01-2010 02:31 PM

So, what does FUD mean?

Happy Monkey 04-01-2010 02:44 PM

Your wikipedia entry was correct.

classicman 04-01-2010 03:08 PM

It means that the D's are employing the same tactics as the R's.
They just have a different twist to their sales pitch.


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