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wanderer

07-19-2010 09:46 AM

Hope that poor lady comes up well.

squirell nutkin

07-19-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 671324)

So this local guy, church-going man, goes into apartment of wife, a teacher, he is separated from: they were all to go swimming, they had attended marriage counseling. Something happened, and he didn't kill the wife, but his 21 (?) year old stepson. Took his 7 year old son and went on the run. Eventually he dropped the kid at relatives and returned to the area. After a chase he was arrested. At court, film shows him to be pretty lacksadaisacal (hi, have a nice day) in spite of the fact he and his glock put a few rounds in a now-dead and by all reports (my ex plays music at these people's church) a very nice young man. This apartment was above my nephew and nephew's fiancee's apartment.

What the hell is wrong with people? Same things that have been wrong since the beginning of time, same things that will be with us forever. Small town is not immune, never has been...it's just so much less than urban areas (like where I work.)

I hope your neighbor recovers and with time it doesn't seem so scary. Terrible when something happens so close because it does, in a way, happen to you too.

I'm not sure who killed whom in this narrative, but someone died.

Cloud

07-19-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 671324)

What the hell is wrong with people? Same things that have been wrong since the beginning of time, same things that will be with us forever. Small town is not immune, never has been...it's just so much less than urban areas (like where I work.).

this. domestic violence is universal; don't think it matters how big the town is, or how well armed the participants are. Just people being cruel to one another.

Shawnee123

07-19-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squirell nutkin (Post 671366)

I'm not sure who killed whom in this narrative, but someone died.

I thought the "he didn't kill the wife, but the 21 year old stepson" you know, the one he glocked six or seven times for no reason, the "nice young man" would be a reader's tipoff. Please to let me revise for clarity. What reading level do squirrel's prefer?

Shawnee123

07-19-2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 671371)

this. domestic violence is universal; don't think it matters how big the town is, or how well armed the participants are. Just people being cruel to one another.

Almond!

It's a sad thing, isn't it. :(

SamIam

07-19-2010 11:06 AM

I'm not very clear either, Shaw. The person killed was the stepson? Or was the stepson the killer? :confused:

Shawnee123

07-19-2010 11:12 AM

1) Ex husband walks into apartment of 'estranged but working on counseling with' wife.
2) 21 year old stepson there
3) estranged wife and real 7 year old son also there
4) killed the fuck out of the 21 year old stepson
5) took off with the 7 year old son
6) Amber Alert issued
7) 7 year old son dropped with relatives in IN or IL or somewhere
8) Killer returns to area, is chased, is arrested
9) Useless murderer lurves the camera "kthx for the 'rainment, y'all."
10) 21 year old still dead as fuck, riddled with bullet holes.

Re-reading, it wasn't clear. Sorry folks. :blush:

Here's a link:

http://www.whiotv.com/news/24207881/detail.html

squirell nutkin

07-19-2010 11:46 AM

I missed the period and capital letter after "21 y.o stepson" and read it like this:

Quote:

Something happened, and he didn't kill the wife, but his 21 (?) year old stepson took his 7 year old son and went on the run

Shawnee123

07-19-2010 11:53 AM

yeah, in hindsight it was very poorly written. I've been practicing free-association in my writing but sometimes it gets very messy just like my bedroom floor because I'm so sick of my cats but I love them but please take them away in fact please take me away just like Calgon only with money and a lamborghini.

Gravdigr

07-19-2010 04:10 PM

Two things:

1. Some of you folks have lysdexia.
2. Big city, or, small town, people are just fucked up.
N. More LEGAL guns = less violent crimes. Look at the stats for any state that has had concealed carry laws for more than five years.

SamIam

07-19-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 671452)

Some of you folks have lysdexia.

LOL I actually sat here for a moment and wondered what "lysdexia" is. I guess I've got it.

Pete Zicato

07-19-2010 04:54 PM

Dyslexics of the world, untie!

Pete Zicato

07-19-2010 04:56 PM

Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac?

He stayed awake all night wondering if there is a dog.

piercehawkeye45

07-19-2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 671287)

I'll have to go look for the article that I read earlier this week countering the "less guns less violent crime" theory.

More guns will not universally raise or lower violent crime. It greatly depends on the gun culture of the society.

If very responsible people with common sense carry more guns the number of violent crimes will most likely go down. You do not want to rob someone with a .45. You do not rob a house when they own a shotgun.

On the other hand, if irresponsible people, gang members for example, get hold of guns, the number of violent crimes will most likely rise. They see gun as a power they can abuse and will do just that.

Sorry to hear this happened Sam. Hope she gets better.

Urbane Guerrilla

07-20-2010 02:29 AM

I dunno, Pierce: in the American gun culture, a prevalence of weapons owned and carried is without exception associated with a drop in crime, particularly violent crime, generally if perhaps a bit less strongly a drop in property crime as well. It suggests that all crime clusters around certain individuals among whom aberrant behavior abounds. Suppress these and you can start leaving doors unlocked again.

That said, I don't think America contains humans very much different from humans anyplace else. It doesn't require noteworthy extremities of responsibility to be both safe and effective with a personal weapon. The regular portion does the job very well. You don't have to be the Pope to pack heat in a socially-redeeming-value way. For instance, snuffing out gang members behaving with lethal irresponsibility. Shooting back, to fight crime, works so often that one really should think more of it would be even better, particularly in crime-rich neighborhoods.

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