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Sundae 03-29-2011 11:26 AM

So where does it leave us when the person in question is a surgeon or a consultant?
And how do you address your dentist (when you don't have anything in your mouth)?

And how about Strawberry Festival Queens, even if Bri is now collecting titles like they're beanie babies...?

monster 03-29-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 719336)
So where does it leave us when the person in question is a surgeon or a consultant?


They don't revert to Mr/Ms here, it's doctor all the way, baby.....


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And how do you address your dentist (when you don't have anything in your mouth)?

bitch

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And how about Strawberry Festival Queens, even if Bri is now collecting titles like they're beanie babies...?
yo bitch.

Trilby 03-29-2011 11:29 AM

:)

infinite monkey 03-29-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 719336)
So where does it leave us when the person in question is a surgeon or a consultant?
And how do you address your dentist (when you don't have anything in your mouth)?

I call my dentist Dr. Well, I will when I go to my new alive dentist.

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And how about Strawberry Festival Queens, even if Bri is now collecting titles like they're beanie babies...?
Beanie babies...lol!

btw, we have about 3 months for one of us to win the lottery so you can make it to the festival!

http://www.gostrawberries.com/cwt/ex...val/index.aspx

Spexxvet 03-29-2011 12:03 PM

In the office, I always refer to the Doctors that I work with as Dr. Outside, the older man is Doc, the young woman is Chrissy. Previous doctors that I worked with were Dr. in front of patients, their first name in private. The doctors who treat me are always Dr., even out of the office. Friends are never Dr. I refer to The Strawberry Queen as Sugar Tits.

monster 03-29-2011 12:18 PM

As a Brit, I find it weird that Opticians and dentists expect to be called Dr. ZI don't know if the whiole scene has changes since Ileft, though. In the main, I find Brits far less formal. Far fewer children refer to their friends parents as Mr/Mrs Whatever.

I still find it really weird when kids who know my name will say "yes ma'am" when I ask them to do something and they're not being funny.

Sundae 03-29-2011 12:44 PM

I can't say about children as they know me in and out of school as "Miss-us Awwww-neeee".
I didn't realise those higher up the medical chain in the US stayed Doctors. That makes a difference in the dropping the Doctor in a social setting thing.... I think.

For those unclear about what we've just discussed - consultants and surgeons in the UK are addressed Mr, Mrs Ms as per their preference. They are no longer called Doctor. It's a badge of honour.

As an adult I can't imagine ever using the word Sir. Unless it was to a Judge. No, that's Your Honour. And I certainly can't imagine using Madam or Ma'am. I'm very conventional and polite, I just can't picture appropriate circumstances.

infinite monkey 03-29-2011 12:53 PM

It's a badge of honor to be called Mr or Mrs or Ms, or being called Doctor is a badge of honor? Because a surgeon is a specialized doctor, isn't he?

And what is a consultant? Like a family doctor? Which actually makes sense and sort of answers my previous questions...so someone with an advanced medical degree is not called doctor?

I remember calling a basketball coach "sir" when I was in HS and he (who had really just recently graduated college and became a teacher) laughed and asked me not to call him 'sir', that he wasn't my dad. Those guys prefer Coach but I thought I was being respectful. Of course, I've never called my dad 'sir' either. However, in retail stores and the like it's normal to call people 'ma'am' or 'sir' or 'miss'. In fact I knew I was old when no one called me Miss anymore, just Ma'am.

monster 03-29-2011 01:03 PM

I used sir in the UK once I started working in retail stores.

But the whole title thing is un-British. Like the boss of the schools being called "Superintendent Brown" rather than just Mr Brown or Dr Brown. And even on boards and commitees, the report is always about Trustee Jackson, and Councillor White. and calling your team coach "Coach Jim or Coach Bumfluff" rather than just Jim or Mr. Bumfluff. So alien. I still struggle after 10 years.

monster 03-29-2011 01:05 PM

re consultant, they are high-up super-duper doctors, so awesome that to associate them with mere regular doctors is an insult to their superiority. so they go back to Mr./Ms. to show just how awesome they are.

Oh and professor -only really high up teachers in British universities are professors. Not all of them. the rest are just Dr. or Mr/s. such-and-such.

Sundae 03-29-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 719387)
It's a badge of honor to be called Mr or Mrs or Ms, or being called Doctor is a badge of honor? Because a surgeon is a specialized doctor, isn't he?

They progress beyond the title of Doctor. A surgeon has more years under his/ her belt. It's like going from being valuable to priceless :)
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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 719387)
And what is a consultant? Like a family doctor? Which actually makes sense and sort of answers my previous questions...so someone with an advanced medical degree is not called doctor?

A family doctor is a GP (general practitioner) and is always called Doctor professionally. A Consultant is the person you are referred to AFTER a doctor. They are a specialist in their field, have trained longer and have more knowledge than a doctor. Again, they are beyond the title.

It's not about your degree, it's about your profession, and the rank you have achieved in it.

And I think I know who you are now IM.
Sorry that it took me so long, I hadn't read long enough posts to recognise your stylee.

infinite monkey 03-29-2011 01:16 PM

Oh, sorry. I figured most knew. There are only a couple I'd rather not figure it out because of trolling history but last night's posts tell me it's too late for that. I'm sure feigned innocence would result from a call-out, and it's not worth it.

Thanks, I do get the difference now. A consultant is a specialist. We would say something like "My doctor sent me to a specialist for a consult" so it's kind of the same. But we would still call the specialist a Doctor.

Spexxvet 03-29-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by infinite monkey (Post 719395)
Oh, sorry. I figured most knew.

RKZenrage? Marichiko? Yesman065? Who are you, really?;)

Clodfobble 03-29-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
As an adult I can't imagine ever using the word Sir.... And I certainly can't imagine using Madam or Ma'am.

I call my kids Sir and Ma'am when I'm admonishing them. A lot of parents here do, but only when the kids are still under the age of 6 or so.

infinite monkey 03-29-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 719402)
RKZenrage? Marichiko? Yesman065? Who are you, really?;)

I smack thee on general principle. :D


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