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Dr. Zaius 05-14-2016 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 960065)
Distraction? Keep reporters digging on a non-story?

Yeah, maybe Trump leaked the story to get people to quit talking about his non-released taxes for a few days.

BigV 05-14-2016 12:31 PM

Because we're still talking about trump. The biggest attention whore ever. Ever.

The content is.... Irrelevant. Just so that we're saying trump.

Undertoad 05-14-2016 01:31 PM

Exactly; this is the first troll Presidential campaign.

I don't read any of the stories - I only read headlines - but from this perspective, the people are being trolled, and they are losing.

We know the troll - we are familiar with how this goes. We have been trolled for 30 years, some of us; sometimes we have lost, and we have learned from it. But our aunts and uncles only got on Facebook in 2012, and most of them haven't figured out this dynamic.

The classic troll: say something provocative and get as much reaction from it as you can; now you've disrupted everything, you are the topic, which was the goal all along.

This guy's a pro and has been chumming the water for years and years. But at some point there's a feeding frenzy, and the fish generate their own chum. So now he doesn't even have to say anything. Posts will be written about what he said earlier. Or who supports him and who doesn't. Or pure speculation.

Did you spend any time thinking - seriously considering - whether or not he acted as his own spokesman 25 years ago? Did you consider the implications of the story? Did you wonder whether it would have legs? At lunch with J today, and she got a notification on her phone for it. The NY fuckin' Times had it as "breaking news".

Breaking news? They sent an alert for this?

The traditional online response is, YHBT. YHL. HAND.

You Have been Trolled. You Have Lost. Have A Nice Day.

classicman 05-15-2016 09:32 AM

Well, at least Hillary is enjoying the cover and the complicit media can use this/him as an excuse not to cover her "issues"

Griff 05-15-2016 09:37 AM

I'm wondering if they're just trying to limp Clinton into the convention before indictment, so they can switch to Biden...

classicman 05-15-2016 09:40 AM

There isn't going to be any indictment. Thats whats taking so long,
they're still burying/destroying the evidence and getting their cover story straight.

Griff 05-15-2016 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 960091)
Exactly; this is the first troll Presidential campaign.

this

Griff 05-15-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 960165)
There isn't going to be any indictment. Thats whats taking so long,
they're still burying/destroying the evidence and getting their cover story straight.

Unless Barry (Obama) and Joe are keeping straight faces just waiting for their moment. It would be odd, a totally undemocratic process leading to a most likeable insider candidate. The Romans would have nothing on us.

classicman 05-15-2016 01:52 PM

What makes you think they do? Heck, there are a lot of R's who are probably in this as well. Many/most of them hate the threat of Trump as much as the D's. He's a potential threat to their way of life.
The sham of an electoral process continues - just ask a few superdelegates like Kerry and Franken who openly admit they'll vote how THEY want, not how the people they represent vote.

Undertoad 11-28-2019 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 960091)
Exactly; this is the first troll Presidential campaign.

I don't read any of the stories - I only read headlines - but from this perspective, the people are being trolled, and they are losing.

We know the troll - we are familiar with how this goes. We have been trolled for 30 years, some of us; sometimes we have lost, and we have learned from it. But our aunts and uncles only got on Facebook in 2012, and most of them haven't figured out this dynamic.

The classic troll: say something provocative and get as much reaction from it as you can; now you've disrupted everything, you are the topic, which was the goal all along.

This guy's a pro and has been chumming the water for years and years. But at some point there's a feeding frenzy, and the fish generate their own chum. So now he doesn't even have to say anything. Posts will be written about what he said earlier. Or who supports him and who doesn't. Or pure speculation.

Did you spend any time thinking - seriously considering - whether or not he acted as his own spokesman 25 years ago? Did you consider the implications of the story? Did you wonder whether it would have legs? At lunch with J today, and she got a notification on her phone for it. The NY fuckin' Times had it as "breaking news".

Breaking news? They sent an alert for this?

The traditional online response is, YHBT. YHL. HAND.

You Have been Trolled. You Have Lost. Have A Nice Day.

I wrote that in May 2016. Three and a half years later...

He tweeted the picture of his head on Rocky's body yesterday and everybody lost their shit.

He's not just any troll, but the world's greatest troll. The guy always loves to say he's the greatest "whatever", but there's one thing that he really is the greatest at: he's the greatest troll of all time.

You think of the weird wild emperors and "big man" dictators who plastered their face all over every street. Those weren't trolls, not at all. The troll gets YOU to put his face up there. And it doesn't matter if it's out of admiration, or because you used it for target practice. The troll's market is in attention. If you're paying attention, you have lost.

How about don't even use his name? I'm thinking tactics here, big media.

Griff 11-29-2019 06:04 AM

Big Media likes getting paid. Big media loves a troll.


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