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Dagney 12-03-2003 03:24 PM

Just remember to leave some crumbs, and if it snows, go put out some foot prints!

And don't forget the carrots, those reindeer get REALLY tired!

perth 12-03-2003 03:25 PM

No blue cardigans, I promise. He wears a lot of hockey and football outfits. Seems everyone who meets him wants to buy him an outfit with their favourite team's logo on it. I suspect they're worried that since daddy doesn't like sports, hes gonna grow up queer or something. :rolleyes:

SteveDallas 12-03-2003 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by perth
Oh, I forgot about the cookies. Maybe I should keep my mouth shut when he asks...
My suggestion that everybody leaves milk & cookies... maybe Santa would enjoy some nachos & beer instead? was met with stern disapproval by Mrs. Dallas, who was backed up 100% by the kids.

I tried.... :blunt:

ladysycamore 12-03-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juju
I wouldn't NOT tell her about Santa. My initial idea was to tell her about it but say that he didn't exist.

The compromise my wife came up with just the other day (without any mention from me) was some nonsense about Santa Claus being the "spirit" of the original St. Nicholas (who was real). Not sure what I think of that.

Ooo I like I like! I think I would have accepted that as a kid..lol! It just sounds cool..."the spirit of Santa"....:D

Plus, there's the issue of all those Santas at the malls, on TV, etc. Ha! :haha:

juju 12-03-2003 04:57 PM

It is very poetic. On the other hand, I'm an agnostic. So it's still a lie, isn't it?

hot_pastrami 12-03-2003 05:54 PM

Perth's make-believe honor-tradition approach kicks some serious ass. I hadn't thought of it quite that way. Let the kid's imagination take the wheel, but only as much as they want it to.

Brilliant.

Undertoad 12-03-2003 07:08 PM

It really is. Mucho respect perth!

xoxoxoBruce 12-03-2003 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by perth
My plan is to make sure Jamey knows about Santa, and knows that Mommy and Daddy are the ones who put the presents under the tree. I want him to realise that it's neat to think of Santa, and to enjoy all the stories and traditions. I'll read him stories about Santa, and we will go visit Santa at the mall. Its all make-believe, and he knows make-believe is for fun.

I will also try to instill in him that its okay for his friends and classmates to believe, because it's all part of the fun of Christmas. And if he chooses to believe in Santa, despite my telling him that the gifts come from us, thats cool too, because his imagination should be allowed to be as free as he wants.

What I guess it boils down to, is that I won't lie to him, but I won't squash the childlike wonder that I've worked hard to instill in him. I might be expecting more maturity out of him than he can give, but in the end, as long as he's happy that's whats important.

You are a very smart parent. Please adopt me.:)

Whit 12-03-2003 11:53 PM

      Ack... I suddenly realize that I don't know if my six year old daughter believes in santa or not... I know her brother, age 10, hasn't believed in two or three years...

      I did catch my parents putting out the gifts. I was already suspicious, this just confirmed things. I was six though, old enough to realize that the santa tradition might end if everything was out in the open. I spoke with my older brother and he confirmed that santa goes away when the youngest stops believing and threatened me physically to insure the parents didn't find out. I informed him that no threat was necessary. We had santa for a few more years... I think someone eventually asked if I still believed in santa and I answered, "not for years now." Boom, no more santa gifts. Sigh.

xoxoxoBruce 12-04-2003 01:02 AM

Christ, my mother still puts "From Santa" on the tags and the youngest hasn't believed for40 years.
Oh, and I didn't tell him.;)

be-bop 12-04-2003 05:34 PM

disillusionment
 
[quote]Originally posted by juju

Of course, there are many circumstances where little lies are okay and probably beneficial. But something so vast as the "Santa Claus" fantasy is WAY beyond a small white lie.



Most kids only play the Santa game until about 6 or 7 at the latest
I know with my two daughters that they grew up so fast believing in Santa was no big deal.its like the tooth fairy novelty soon wears off when the dentist starts fitting braces.
enjoy every moment with your daughter because before you know it the boyfriends will be at the door then you will have greater things to worry about whether you lied about Santa.Besides there is nothing more magical that watching Christmas through your kids eye's when the are at the age when its all new and wonderful.

lumberjim 12-04-2003 06:17 PM

Re: disillusionment
 
[quote]Originally posted by be-bop
Quote:

Originally posted by juju


enjoy every moment with your daughter because before you know it the boyfriends will be at the door

A farmer had identical triplets...they all had their first date on the same night. So, the farmer, being a father of triplets, and very overprotective, waited by the door with his shotgun for the boys to arrive....just to make his position clear.


the 1st boy arrives:

"Hi, my name is Eddie
I'm here for Betty
We're gonna get some spaghetti
Is she ready?

the farmer laughs, eddie and betty leave....

2nd boy arrives:

Hi, my name is Joe
I'm here for Flo
We're gonna see a show
Is she ready to go?

again, the farmer laughs, and the kids leave


the third boy arrives:

"Hi, my name is Chuck
I'm here to....( BANG!! )
The farmer shoots him

Happy Monkey 12-04-2003 07:21 PM

What was the third girl's name?

lumberjim 12-04-2003 07:25 PM

we'll never know...the joke ended

SteveDallas 12-04-2003 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Happy Monkey
What was the third girl's name?
Dolores?


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