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depmats 05-27-2004 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
marichko, if you are so freaking destitute that you are considering scamming other states' welfare systems, why do you have a computer and internet access?
daaaaamn! ouch, but good question - I think the libraries are closed by now.

marichiko 05-27-2004 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
marichko, if you are so freaking destitute that you are considering scamming other states' welfare systems, why do you have a computer and internet access?
I have a beat up lap top that someone loaned me and a bunch of "Free AOL for 3 months" disks. And what gives you the right to form the opinion that I would be "scamming"?

PS When all else fails, I use a friend's computer or I go to the local college library which as it just so happens is currently open for 24 hours for finals. Don't make assumptions, Defmats.

DanaC 05-27-2004 07:02 AM

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marichko, if you are so freaking destitute that you are considering scamming other states' welfare systems, why do you have a computer and internet access?
She isnt destitute yet ....She is facing possible destitution. Your attitude in that last post is horrible.

wolf 05-27-2004 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by marichiko


I have a beat up lap top that someone loaned me and a bunch of "Free AOL for 3 months" disks. And what gives you the right to form the opinion that I would be "scamming"?

a "beat up laptop" wouldn't run word 2003 ... which is a VERY expensive piece of software.

As an American, I have the right to hold any opinion I want. As a taxpayer, I have the right to hold the opinion that you are scamming (or rather planning to scam) the system. You said that you would move to another state JUST FOR THE BENEFITS.

That's scamming.

Happy Monkey 05-27-2004 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
a "beat up laptop" wouldn't run word 2003 ... which is a VERY expensive piece of software.
Not necessarily...

jaguar 05-27-2004 10:22 AM

or she could be using word at a library

and don't tell me people actually pay for msft software.

wolf 05-27-2004 10:31 AM

I know the guy who does ...

jaguar 05-27-2004 10:36 AM

his name is uncle sam

elSicomoro 05-27-2004 10:53 AM

I paid for mine.

jaguar 05-27-2004 11:07 AM

OEM (with the machine) or seperately though

Catwoman 05-27-2004 11:09 AM

I have office xp running on win 2k so i'm sure marichiko could have word 03 on a 3 year old laptop. Not that that is the point. At all. Give the girl a break or she'll take that cowgirl lassoo and whip you all into shape.

jaguar 05-27-2004 11:22 AM

this is wolf, you'd have enough lead in you to act as nuclear reactor lining by the time you got it out.

marichiko 05-27-2004 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by wolf


a "beat up laptop" wouldn't run word 2003 ... which is a VERY expensive piece of software.

As an American, I have the right to hold any opinion I want. As a taxpayer, I have the right to hold the opinion that you are scamming (or rather planning to scam) the system. You said that you would move to another state JUST FOR THE BENEFITS.

That's scamming.

No, it won't run 2003, I've been having endless problems with it. A friend loaned me his disk for it, but I can't get it to work on my machine.

If its possible for me to get more help in a different state, I see nothing wrong with going there to obtain it. Its very hard to go through the medical treatment I need and make some kind of progress with voc-rehab when I'm looking at having no housing again by next winter. All my energy gets taken up with trying to figure out how I'm going to find shelter and fighting the fear that I have about this.

I have a doumented medical condition that I am trying to get evaluation and treatment for so that I can go back to work. Someone tells me of a state where I can get more help that what I'm currently getting and can even live indoors. If I move there, I am a scammer? It seems to me that you object to ANYBODY recieving assistance in order to be productive again.

Apparently you would prefer that me and others like me recieve no help what-so-ever and either die or live in hobo camps somewhere, rather than get some assistance and become productive tax paying members of society again. Let's set aside any humanitarian concerns and look at it in terms of dollars and common sense. If I had been able to remain in my old profession, I'd be earning around $50,000 a year at this point. If I was given the help to go back to it or do something similar, I could be earning that $50,000 again. Of that income, at least a third would go to the government in taxes = $15,500/year. I have potentially 20 productive working years left to me IF I get help. That means the government would get at least $300,000 out of me and that's if I never got a single raise or cost of living adjustment. All the government would have to do is invest about $40,000 in me, almost all of which I have already paid for in taxes myself. $40,000.00 to get a $300,000.00 return ain't a bad return for your money. But you and other American voters are too short-sighted to see this and instead want to accuse people in need of help as being scammers and throw them to the dogs.

OnyxCougar 05-27-2004 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Beestie
No one in America is dying in the street because they were denied help.
I disagree. I was pregnant and homeless in the milk and honey state of California. I tried to get on ANY kind of welfare, food stamps, housing, medical aid, ANYTHING, and was declined because I didn't have a place of residence. (Circular reasoning at it's best, folks.)

The only way I got off the streets was a Christian couple that brought me into their home.

elSicomoro 05-27-2004 11:55 AM

Mari, have you actually looked at the changes being made to Section 8 on HUD's website? I wouldn't completely trust what that interest group is saying, as interest groups can be as bad as politicians when it comes to spin.


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