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judging by all the stuff that's come out since it appears most had doubts about what WMD or what capability they had to use it at best. The fact of the matter is that Bush and Blair are equally guilty of blowing out of all proportion the evidence as it was either with full knowledge they were distorting the truth beyond recognition or not bothering to go back and find out the situation either directly from primary sources or intel services. Both bush and blair are equally guilty of blaming the intel services for their own failings.
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The Tony Blair speech lies by misrepresenting facts. UN defanged Saddam by 1996. In fact, every honest American can thank the UN for doing their job. Due to UN success, there were no massive American casulties in 1993. UN did its job. Therefore thousands - and maybe tens of thousands of Americans did not die in Iraq. Simple fact that the Tony Blair speech intentionally distorts - to promote a lie. And he must lie because he started lying when he 'sexed up' the threat. Liars must lie more to coverup their lies. Saddam was not a threat to America as any intelligent American now knows. Saddam was a diminishing threat even to everyone in the region. This from American generals before we Pearl Harbored Iraq. Thank you president Tojo for not thanking UNSCOM. Thank you Tony Blair for lying so you don't have to admit you were lying previously. |
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The pivotal speech - Jan 2002 State of the Union address - as public lies began. |
bush kicks ass. democrats suck ass
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Of course, your "bush kicks ass" fits really nicely on a bumper sticker, so I guess you win. My bad. :blunt: |
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Oh, I agree with you Rich.
I was just objecting to the Pearl Harbor thing. ;) |
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Iraq was invaded for no reason - other than the greater glory of George Jr. There was no declaration of war. There was no legal authorization for war. As the Secretary General said, the invasion of Iraq was illegal. One cannot get much closer to meeting the definition of 'Pearl Harbor'. Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack. Fine. A beautifully executed tactical manuever. But what makes Pearl Harbor so wrong lies in no declaration of war, no justified reason for war, and done only for the greater glory of the supreme leader. Three reasons apply both to Japan's attack at Pearl and to US invasion of Iraq. The US 'Pearl Harbored' Iraq. |
Yeah, ok. There was a declaration of war, they just forgot to give it to us before the attack. Yeah, I know they tried to time giving it to us to less than an hour before the attack and failed, same difference. There was also a reason which was to keep us (MacArthur) from interfering with their taking over the whole Pacific, especially SE Asia.
But all that aside, I think to most people, Pearl Harbor means sneak attack. :) |
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But the point remains that the US invaded Iraq on same principles that America considers so despicable at Pearl Harbor. Unfortunately some people prefer not to see it that way. |
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Even the little teeny point of congruency you're attempting to reach for -- that Japan attacked the US to keep the US out of the war, and the US attacked Iraq to forestall future aggressive endeavors -- isn't really all that similar. And it doesn't matter; the reasons for Japan attacking the US weren't what made Pearl Harbor so terrible in the minds of Americans. The mere fact of the attack was one reason, and the manner was another. |
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