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Happy Monkey 08-22-2005 11:42 AM

And any of Feynman's memoirs.

Perry Winkle 08-22-2005 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
And any of Feynman's memoirs.

I love Feynman's writing style. The bonus of reading his memoirs is all the additional cool anecdotes, e.g. the lock hacking stories.

Kagen4o4 08-22-2005 07:27 PM

the one screwed up thing about the american government at the time on the atomic bomb was that the scientists told them there was a slight (very very small) chance that detonating one of those things could ignite the oxygen in the air causing a chain reaction that could incinerate the earth. to which the american government replied "do it"
as small as the odds were. thats still a big risk. imagined the scientists biting their fists waiting to see if it would happen

lookout123 08-22-2005 07:28 PM

eh. people once cautioned us that driving in an automobile at speeds faster than 38 mph would cause one's eyeballs to implode. the scientists were wrong then, they're probably wrong now...

itzBoo 08-22-2005 09:14 PM

To Bullitt and Wolf
 
Ok..it's obvious that I never passed My US history class llooll

marichiko 08-22-2005 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
the one screwed up thing about the american government at the time on the atomic bomb was that the scientists told them there was a slight (very very small) chance that detonating one of those things could ignite the oxygen in the air causing a chain reaction that could incinerate the earth. to which the american government replied "do it"
as small as the odds were. thats still a big risk. imagined the scientists biting their fists waiting to see if it would happen

Actually, that thought has always fascinated me. I usually remember that bit of trivia if I happen to be down Los Alamos, New Mexico way. I imagine the physicists kissing their wives good-bye on the morning of the first test then going to stand on a mountainside somewhere and wondering...

The scientific detachment, looking at the blue sky, fluffy white clouds overhead, perhaps hearing the call of a meadowlark...

Waiting under the New Mexico sky...

For the end of the world...

Do you suppose they placed bets among themselves?

wolf 08-23-2005 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
... that the scientists told them there was a slight (very very small) chance that detonating one of those things could ignite the oxygen in the air causing a chain reaction that could incinerate the earth. to which the american government replied "do it"

Not quite.

The "atmosphere catching fire" was a speculation raised fairly early on in the development of the bomb by Edward Teller, I believe. They stopped work for a bit, put a team of theoretical physicist to work on the math, and decided that wouldn't happen.

By the time they were ready to go on the Trinity Test (July 16, 1945) that was no longer even a consideration. Even so, Manhattan Project lore states that a press release was prepared announcing the death of several dozen prominent physicists in an industrial accident of some kind.

Seriously, read the book I posted a link to earlier.

wolf 08-23-2005 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by itzBoo
Ok..it's obvious that I never passed My US history class llooll

You never had an opportunity to learn this stuff in US history class ... it's not taught.

I thought it was cool and so I researched it on my own.

wolf 08-23-2005 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
Do you suppose they placed bets among themselves?

There were bets placed on the yield of the Trinity gadget.

Fermi won.

itzBoo 08-23-2005 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf
You never had an opportunity to learn this stuff in US history class ... it's not taught.

I thought it was cool and so I researched it on my own.

To wolf,
Yes it's being mentioned in the book, we've also learned about the us dropping a-bombs over japan, and the making of it as well.

wolf 08-23-2005 02:13 AM

If you got much more than "following a crash development program, two atomic bombs were dropped on historically and culturally significant Japanese cities after the Japanese had been virtually defeated," you had a very unusual history textbook and instructor.

itzBoo 08-23-2005 03:01 AM

No, it wasnt much into details. But it did cover the us dropping a-bombs. and etc. What we used as a textbook was that greenish cover US history book.

Clodfobble 08-23-2005 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ItzBoo
What we used as a textbook was that greenish cover US history book.

Oh, that one. :worried:

wolf 08-23-2005 09:58 AM

I come from an era in which history books had red, white, and blue covers and had the founding documents printed on the endpapers.

We spent a lot of time on the endpapers.

Most "Social Studies" classes involved "World Cultures" ... you didn't get exposed to American History until your Junior year. American History ended at the Civil War.

mrnoodle 08-23-2005 10:34 AM

There are many in education who, if the technology were available, cause American history books to drip actual blood. Be nice if the R,W & B ones were more in fashion.


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