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fargon 11-22-2006 09:14 AM

My Chrysler La Boron gets about 30 MPG, My Dodge Ram 4+4 Gets about 10 MPG
The truck also hauls and tows any thing I want to put in it, it also goes off road and is alot of fun to drive. I love the intemidation factor it is big black with lots of chrome. I live large, and I'm lovi'n it.
" If you dont like the way im livin you can just leave this long haired country boy alone"

Clodfobble 11-22-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC
I can only apologise for Hugh Laurie's accent in House:P

What? You're nuts, it's perfect. I know several people who didn't even know he was foreign. Apollo from Battlestar Galactica is flawless as well.

Now Colin Farrell, he has a crappy American accent (see Minority Report, for example.)

DanaC 11-22-2006 12:54 PM

Hmm. Maybe it's just because I know how he usually sounds. To me he sounds very very fakey:P Love the show though.

Now, Apollo I honestly thought was American til I saw on here he wasn't.

Shawnee123 11-22-2006 12:56 PM

I love British accents, but I REALLY love Scottish accents (should I say brogues?) For examples: Craig Ferguson, or that guy from Four Weddings and a Funeral (who gives the eulogy.) Oh SuhWOOOOOOOON!

DanaC 11-22-2006 02:00 PM

Ohhh. You would love my mate Andy (or Ondy as he pronounces it:P) He's from Aberdeenshire and speaks a kind of mix of English and Doric (a dialect which I am assured is actually a language in its own right ) When he's around English people he softens it a little so that we can understand him, but I love it when he goes off on one and vents a bunch of Doric. Its a fantastic dialect.

For instance, he refers to his girlfriend as his Quine,(pronounced Kwine, as in She's ma kwine) which I assume comes from queen.

He lives on a Croft, writes music and songs, is an artist and a local Councillor (SNP naturally) and rides about the place on a series of very wonderful bikes and choppers. One enduring image is of him on a bright pink Harley, which he did up for a female friend.

Happy Monkey 11-22-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
What? You're nuts, it's perfect. I know several people who didn't even know he was foreign. Apollo from Battlestar Galactica is flawless as well.

Idris Elba and Dominic West on The Wire are perfect, too.

wolf 11-23-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram
When people like Buddug uses britishness as justification for racism, hate, and all that bullshit, it makes ALL brits look bad.

Well, Buddug is Welsh, which goes pretty far into explaining the whole inferiority complex ... we don't hold the British responsible for her.

wolf 11-23-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
What? You're nuts, it's perfect. I know several people who didn't even know he was foreign.

I've had to explain that to people too. None of them had ever seen Blackadder or Fry and Laurie.

The one who most impresses me as far as ability to supress a British accent is Eamon Walker ... he played Kareem Said on Oz.

DanaC 11-23-2006 11:30 AM

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Well, Buddug is Welsh, which goes pretty far into explaining the whole inferiority complex ... we don't hold the British responsible for her.
Good! :)

Sundae 11-25-2006 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram
When people like Buddug uses britishness as justification for racism, hate, and all that bullshit, it makes ALL brits look bad. And since the pricks are the loudest, the ones who only hear them... naturally would come to not like brits.

With respect chick - bollocks. If a troll uses their teenagery as justification for spewing hatred it does not make ALL teens look bad. I'd prefer to think that people could spot personal views for what they are, and not tar a whole nation/ age group/ gender etc etc with the same brush. Meh, I didn't mean to single you out (hence not attributing the quote) so I'll accept that you are entitled to that point of view & leave it there. Anyway I've decided to lighten up (see below).

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Check out this link. read down the comments too. :) http://www.janegalt.net/archives/009523.html

This made me SOOOOOO angry... parts of it are just so.... inaccurate! and then like Dana I just had to laugh. Confuse a Brit by getting them to pump their own gas? Actually that was what turned me over to the giggles - both pump and gas are words for farting here. And farting cuts across any national boundaries - we all pump at the end of the day so I may as well stop being so bloody thin-skinned and imagine everyone sitting down together and having one big trump...

To join the accent conversation - Rennie's was great, as was Gweneth Paltrow's. Simon Pegg is in a film with David Shwimmer (spelling?) which is out this weekend - for us anyway, may be out there already - called The Big Nothing. Interested to hear how he does accent-wise. There was a clip of it on TV last night & I thought the accent was dire, but David Schwimmer said it was good....? Admit I'm not great on accents once it's out of the British Isles.

DanaC 11-25-2006 08:58 AM

Umm....in what way would we be confused at having to pump our own gas/petrol? We only have self service over here. More likely it would confuse us if someone attempted to fill our car for us.

Trilby 11-25-2006 09:27 AM

It sucks when people make sweeping generalizations about you and your country, doesn't it?

Sundae 11-25-2006 09:33 AM

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Want to really freak out a visiting Brit? Make them pump their own gas, use a kiosk at a market or airport, and -- for the capper -- doctor up their own coffee at Starbucks (or wherever). Guaranteed bewilderment.

Trilby 11-25-2006 09:42 AM

That's what I mean.


I feel the same way when Hippikos, Jay or Buddug make the same kind of comments about Americans--as if we are all the same kind of people. It hurts.

Ibby 11-25-2006 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
With respect chick - bollocks. If a troll uses their teenagery as justification for spewing hatred it does not make ALL teens look bad. I'd prefer to think that people could spot personal views for what they are, and not tar a whole nation/ age group/ gender etc etc with the same brush. Meh, I didn't mean to single you out (hence not attributing the quote) so I'll accept that you are entitled to that point of view & leave it there. Anyway I've decided to lighten up (see below).


Hey, I dont have anything against Brits, and the pricks among you don't make ME think less of you, but my point is that some people may think that. Statement of a problem is not an endorsement of it.

Sundae 11-25-2006 09:49 AM

Your statement was "it makes ALL brits look bad" not "some people would think it makes ALL Brits look bad."

But if it's not your view I apologise for picking you up on it.

DanaC 11-25-2006 10:02 AM

Brianna. You regularly resort to 'anti-Brit' statements and sentiments when responding to posts by the Brits on this forum. You make sweeping generalisations about what we think, intend and do.

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Darling, the Brits don't see it that way at all. They only see it in terms of how it will effect them. They really don't even give a hang about us, in terms of individuals; they see us as one big mass of simple-minded, uncultured hicks who'd best do what they're told, or no pat on the head from them.
Case in point. I am a little tired of having this argument with you. If you aren't careful you'll end up with a bent spine from carrying around that fucking big chip.

DanaC 11-25-2006 10:08 AM

Y'know. I really try, as much as possible not to make sweeping generalisations about any nation. I occassionally fail in that endeavour, but it's never malicious. When i refer to 'America' doing something, or 'Britain' doing something, I am referring to the body politic, not the population in general. I occassionally generalise when making a point just because posting would become cumbersome if every statement was couched in caveats. I assume people understand that. Maybe I'm wrong.

This forum sometimes depresses the shit out of me.

Trilby 11-25-2006 10:25 AM

Dana, I didn't mean it that way. I'm sorry you took offense. The above quote of mine that you re-posted out of context was written in a moment of real heat and aimed at a few posters who irritate the shit out of ME. We all get irritated at times. I'm tired of having this convo with you, too.

As far as a chip on my shoulder...well, i guess we've all got burdens to carry, eh?

Trilby 11-25-2006 10:26 AM

I wasn't pointing the finger at you, Dana. Not everything is about *you*

DanaC 11-25-2006 10:33 AM

My point Brianna, is that whilst plenty of people make generalisations about each other's countries, you regularly respond to my posts with a dig at British people, British views, or accusations of generalisation. Now, if it's in response to all those other people, why does it so often come after, and relate to my posts?

DanaC 11-25-2006 10:34 AM

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I wasn't pointing the finger at you, Dana. Not everything is about *you*
I don't think everything is about me. I do think you have a tendency to make sweeping generalisations almost as regularly as you pout over other people generalising about Americans.

JayMcGee 11-25-2006 07:54 PM

mmmmmm.... no quite sure why I'm lumped in with the anti-american brigade... to be sure, I think your foreign policy, for the most part, sucks..... and I 'm not to keen on your general asumption that the american way is the best and only way.....and whilst I'm sure that your cultural output at its best equals the best of Europe, I can only take so many re-runs of the simpsons or Friends.

That said, many of my personal friends are former colonialists.

DanaC 11-26-2006 06:09 AM

You are anti-American because you disagree with aspects of American politics....and because you make tongue in cheek comments about colonialists.

Clodfobble 11-26-2006 09:24 AM

No, because early on when he joined the board, he made very many non-tongue-in-cheek derogatory comments about "Yanks" and "colonialists." To his credit, since staying around and getting to know us, he has stopped the practice almost entirely, and what remains is in fact tongue-in-cheek, like you say. But Brianna tends to hold a grudge. :)

DanaC 11-26-2006 02:28 PM

Ahh. Fair enough. I must have missed the early stuff.

Aliantha 11-26-2006 05:34 PM

Is it wrong to call you lot Yanks? I didn't think there was any other way to affectionately describe you. :)

zippyt 11-26-2006 08:09 PM

it doesn't bother me

Undertoad 11-26-2006 08:29 PM

I was the Yank during my time in Sheffield and it was fine. Some of our Southern brothers may not prefer it. Why:

From Wikipedia's entry on "yankee":

A humorous aphorism attributed to E.B. White summarizes these distinctions:

To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

I only apply to the first three definitions but it speaks true to me.

zippyt 11-26-2006 09:04 PM

American by birth ,
Southern by the Grace of GOD !!!

BigV 11-27-2006 10:42 AM

Don't be sad, zippyt, one out of two ain't bad....

Sundae 11-27-2006 11:05 AM

Rhyming slang gives us Septic Tanks for Yanks (only for comedic effect, not maliciously)

I prefer Mary Queens. For the same reason I will sometimes exchange the words recipe and receipt or use prize for present - it amuses me.

xoxoxoBruce 11-28-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyt
American by birth ,
Southern by the Grace of GOD !!!

You forgot Marine, for life. ;)

JayMcGee 11-28-2006 06:21 PM

that, and this,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6193620.stm

is why I deplore Americans.

Aliantha 11-28-2006 06:28 PM

British soldiers have never done anything like this before? Or Australian even for that matter?

xoxoxoBruce 11-28-2006 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee
mmmmmm.... no quite sure why I'm lumped in with the anti-american brigade... to be sure, I think your foreign policy, for the most part, sucks..... and I 'm not to keen on your general asumption that the american way is the best and only way.....and whilst I'm sure that your cultural output at its best equals the best of Europe, I can only take so many re-runs of the simpsons or Friends.

That said, many of my personal friends are former colonialists.

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee
that, and this,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6193620.stm

is why I deplore Americans.

And you wonder? :rolleyes:

JayMcGee 11-28-2006 06:45 PM

Pass on the ausies.....

As for the Brits, ever since Bloody Sunday our rules of engagement have been very rigerous. It's a difference in attitude and training.

American armed forces are drilled in the 'protect your buddies' ethos: thus, any perceived is responded to with lethal force. The UK armed forces are proabally more mindful of the risk to civilian and non-combatant casualities due to the the fact that much of their battle experience occurred within the UK.

Aliantha 11-28-2006 06:48 PM

Yes but still, there will always be casualties of war. People who're killed in error. Doesn't mean I think it's right or fair. It''s just a fact.

JayMcGee 11-28-2006 06:53 PM

Indeed so, Ali. It just seems to me that certain nations in the coalition forces are more prone to error than others.

Aliantha 11-28-2006 06:55 PM

Perhaps. But maybe it's just that those nations have more soldiers there so of course the incidence of error is higher.

Aliantha 11-28-2006 06:57 PM

The reason I say that is because I think that soldiers the world over have a certain view of the world, and it really doesn't matter which country they're from. There's still a certain base way of going about the job they have to do. Maybe the word I'm looking for is ''gungho" in their attitude.

JayMcGee 11-28-2006 07:20 PM

Yes, I think you put your finger on it.

The British Army does all it can to eliminate the 'gungho' attitude.....

and yes, you are also right that the Americans have more troops there, and in the toughest areas.

But still...... levelling a family dwelling with tank rounds because there are snipers on the roof shooting at your armoured tank does seem a tad excessive... perhaps the continual 'pinging' on the armour was giving the brave lads a headache.....

Aliantha 11-28-2006 07:23 PM

Maybe, or maybe they simply didn't realize the likely/possible consequences of their actions at the time.

It's important to remember Jay, that what you read isn't always the whole story, or even much of it.

Also, remember again, try not to judge a whole nation by the actions of a few.

JayMcGee 11-28-2006 07:35 PM

I think 1 is the most likely.... (it was a multiple choice test, n'est pas?)



as for 2. most of my news comes from the beeb. I surf sky, cnn, reuters and nova, but the thing with the beeb is that they never put out a bulletine unless it's been verified at least three ways. so, they're often late with a story, but you can believe it.


and, yes i do realize (see how I use the zee to connect with my yankee cousins) that the armed forces of the USA are not indicative of the majority of the populace, who are totally untrained in the use of fire-arms but nevertheless demand the right to carry them.

Aliantha 11-28-2006 07:53 PM

Do you just like making life hard for yourself Jay?

lookout123 11-28-2006 07:55 PM

you, sir, are a fucking idiot. soldiers are soldiers the world over. your rules of engagement may read nice and neat so you feel good about them in your warm, cozy, safe life, but i'm telling you that british soldiers are just as ruthless and horrible as us americans. i speak from first hand experience. but you go ahead and keep getting all your best ideas from "the beeb".

JayMcGee 11-28-2006 08:22 PM

TBH, I would be extremely disappointed if our British soldiers were not as least as ruthless and horrible as yours..... when the need arises. And that, of course, is the crux of the matter.

lumberjim 11-29-2006 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee
that, and this,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6193620.stm

is why I deplore Americans.

what a stupid thing to say. does it not seem stupid to you? how can anyone respect a single post you make after something like this? you deplore Americans because of some shit that happened involving americans in a war theatre? you deplore Americans? Bullshi------it. You don't deplore americans. you are obviously unqualified to make an accurate judgement. You may think you deplore us, but i suspect that you simply envy us.

dickless.

DanaC 11-29-2006 07:10 AM

Can I at this point, rather publicly, distance myself from my 'compatriot'.

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As for the Brits, ever since Bloody Sunday our rules of engagement have been very rigerous. It's a difference in attitude and training.
Rules of engagement may well be rigorous, but individual soldiers still fuck up and fuck up badly.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4698251.stm

Aliantha 11-29-2006 05:09 PM

Australians just blow themselves up.

DanaC 11-29-2006 05:17 PM

Yeah,....well British soldiers still have a rather annoying habit of shooting their own men. "friendly fire".

lumberjim 07-02-2008 11:37 PM

funny thread.....

john wayne motherfuckers

HungLikeJesus 07-03-2008 12:54 AM

I was in the middle of reading this article: "SUVs on road to nowhere" when this thread popped up. The comments at the end of the article put the earlier SUV debate in this thread into a different perspective.

The article opens:

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Might as well hold services right here in the driveway of the Thielke family of Aurora, where their hulking, 10.5-mile-per-gallon Ford Excursion is on fire sale with few takers and is soon to be replaced by a less greedy minivan.

Killed by insanely high gas prices and a general cultural embarrassment, the SUV leaves lots of survivors but fewer and fewer friends.

"We're kind of in a pickle. We need a large car, but it's killing us," Erin Thielke, mother of eight, said of the family's $100-plus weekly gas bill. "It stinks. It's just like throwing money away."
Here are a few of the 232 comments posted so far:

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Bigger isn't better or safer and most definitely not necessary. My sympathy for gas guzzling SUV owners is short lived. On multiple occasions I was almost run-over by an cell phone talking, SUV drivers who quite literally acted as if they owned the road and the rest of us just had to deal. SUV's owners fondness for buying, owning and using them a child like tantrum screaming "but I want that". There is a difference between want and need (what a concept!). That its taken sustained $3.00+ a gallon gas prices to get SUV owners to stop pitching a preverbial fit shows thier arrogance and immaturity. ...
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So, Ms. Thielke did her part by contributing to the overpopulation of the planet, global warming, and soaring oil prices by having eight children and buying a 10.5 mpg land yacht. She must be so proud of herself.
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Oh puhleeeeze, no more sob stories about the short-sighted fools who bought into the SUV craze. You will get no sympathy from me. These idiots made their own bed, and now they're whining because they have to lay it.
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8 CHILDREN?
Hey, nothing against having kids, but come on...
That's not a family, that's a litter.
How many decades have we been talking about overpopulation, pollution, diminishing fossil fuels, and so on....
She's the poster child for our national, arrogant, gluttonous overconsumption.
Hard to have pity.
What was she thinking?
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Eight kids sitting on a land yacht feeling entitled to "the good life" and a house-proud nit wit standing in front of it and living in the burbs beyond the horizon. If this isn't the perfect picture of what the rest of the world despises about us, then please tell me what is. And yes, I practice what I believe and live in my city within three blocks in three direction of just about everything I need to purchase. I drive a 13-year-old Suzuki, own an 800 square foot house, and I have spawned one child. How can some people sleep at night? Eight kids!!!
And my favorite:

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car in many Indonesian people is just a dream, including me.

xoxoxoBruce 07-03-2008 01:31 AM

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I practice what I believe and live in my city within three blocks in three direction of just about everything I need to purchase. I drive a 13-year-old Suzuki, own an 800 square foot house, and I have spawned one child.
Loser. :p

Sundae 07-03-2008 08:22 AM

I suppose I do have some pity for people who could afford the children when they had them, but rising fuel and food costs mean they have to lower their standard of living. I'm not going to say anything about the cost of living US vs UK because it's apples and oranges. And on the internet there is no difference in nationality anyway.

So I have some pity, but not an awful lot. If you want children and you had children then you love your children and would do anything for them.

Children don't need to be pampered to be loved. They deal with shortages better than adults, as long as they feel secure. Nothing wrong with having 8 children, just don't whine about it. Kids get picked up for school in the US don't they? Every other trip is elective (in a harsh world I mean!)

jinx 07-03-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 466583)
Here are a few of the 232 comments posted so far:

Gosh, these people sound just as judgmental as a bunch of christians righteously gay bashing don't they.

You want to have few or no kids, live in small house, drive a small car, take up a small footprint etc, then be my guest. You'll get just as much admiration from me an anyone else who has integrity / isn't a hypocrite. If you're doing it for bragging rights, or so you can look down your nose at others, like all the people who posted haughty comments about other people's lives and decisions.... well, your opinion maybe isn't worth as much as you think it is...

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car in many Indonesian people is just a dream, including me.
Yeah, I have a car but dream about living on a tropical island, what's your point?

HungLikeJesus 07-03-2008 08:03 PM

To me, it indicates that a lot of people want to be just like us.

lumberjim 02-12-2010 10:06 AM

I sought out this thread to update on the mangled Jeep, but wasted 45 minutes rereading it.

i still think jay is dickless, by the way.

Anyhow, I got a call from the appraiser, and the Jeep is too buried in snow for him to get a good look. he's sending us a check for $5219 which he thinks is about 2/3 of the damage...... I hope he's right about that.......

Concerned about the tires, though....he says they prorate them...and if I have to have 2 tires replaced....and only get half their value..... PLUS, it's all wheel drive, and I don't want differing diameter tires on it. they are big meaty mud terrains, and new ones might be as much as a 1/2" taller.....that will add up quickly and mean different twist speeds on the axles going into the transfer case. I may find that I have to replace all 4 tires. I think I need to talk to the body shop guy and see if he can get new tires included in his estimate. this shouldn't be costing us a red cent in my opinion.

damn it

classicman 02-12-2010 10:28 AM

Fight Jim Fight!
The insurance company only wanted to pay me for a rental car for a week to ten days. Then they wanted me to pay first and they would reimburse me. Uh, no thats not how it works when you are the victim. Additionally, they wanted MY credit card at the rental place "just in case." I told them to call the insurance company contact and ask for HIS credit card. That took care of that.

TheMercenary 02-17-2010 08:38 PM

Insurance companies will screw you at the first moment of weakness. Just don't let them close the case or sign anything until they make your vehicle "Whole". They have a responsibility to do that by law. Good luck. We are still dealing with ours after an accident at Thanksgiving and them keeping the car until last week to try to fix it.


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