You're probably right, he championed non-violence. I just like sticking to what people actually said/did, not conjecture.

Fair enough. Me too. I wouldn't have posted it as a quote if I'd known it was a fake. I might get the book and check it out though. I do have a book with all MLK's speaches here. I might find the one that's supposedly the origins of the quote and see what it really says.

He was a smart guy, could use another like him.

It might be nice if he were to pop by someday and say "that is NOT what I meant!".

I say the same thing regarding the Founding fathers and the 2nd amendment.

I don't know what "false quote" means. Maybe you meant to say "according to this source, MLK did not say the first sentence of the quote".

I think it's pretty clear what "false quote" means. I have yet to see any evidence that MLK said those quoted words. He probably used each and every word in that quote at some point in his life, but just not in that order, as far as I can tell.

Unfortunately, he was taken from us before his time. If he hadn't used those words in that order before he died, he was bound to by the end of April 1968.

I've said loads of words thruout my life. I suppose, by this argument, that I've said some pretty fucking awesome things, too. I mean, I said all the words, I just didn't string them together in that way... :rolleyes:

Some after-the-fact editing is all you need.

I found the chanting and all night singing a bit much, and noted that alot the crowd seemed very young. There was some anlaysis on NPR and they talked about how for young people, somoene who was under 12 say in 2001, Bin Laden was the Big Bad Bogeyman for large portion of their lives, so for him to be killed is huge in perspective.

My thoughts are summed up very well by what is apparently a hackneyed mis quote incorrectly attributed to Mark Twain, anyway,

"I have never wished anyone dead, but there are obituaries I have read with great deal of satisfaction"


also the new drink is The Bin Laden, two shots and a splash of water.

:thumb:
:haha:
:drunk:

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Beest, you probably did see a lot of that, living in a college town! Also, it's true, I remember being afraid of the cold war and some unknown russian threat, but there wasn't the likes of a Hitler or a bin Laden.

Nary a word on this campus. Different environment.

And I like the drink!

Is he DEAD or is he Dead? :lol:

Bin Laden is deAD

He's deaD as...dEad.

--Lance

apparently the photo going around now is.....fake

oh, and love the drink beest!

or Jesus.

Or Mohammed.

etc etc.

I'll have a double. Tap.

Me and J were talking about this today. Both of us reached the same conclusion: dancing in the streets and jubiliation seems off-colour, but both of us are of the opinion that if anybody deserved to die it was Osama Bin Laden. And for Americans in particular, this represented far more than the death of a man, it was the closure needed for a nation who'd been hit in a way they'd never been hit before.

I like that the decision was made to go for a ground assault rather than a missile. That was a clever move. Quite aside from the possibility that they might have been able to take the bastard alive, the death toll was incredibly low for such a high-stakes hit.

How different things might have looked if they'd gone for a missile strike and killed a dozen civilians in the process.

Hell of a brave decision though. One of those missions that could either go well and bring the praises of the whole world...or go badly and bring the relationship between the US and Pakistan to the brink.

I have to admit, much as I like Obama, this was way more decisive than I would have imagined him being.

Yeah, it would have looked like just another week in Pakistan.

It's one of the few areas that he's been ABLE to be as decisive as he would like to be.

Good point. Your legislative system seems designed to prevent actual decision making by the President :p

:)

Looks like Obama is NOT going to release the photos/video of OBL/UBL's body.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110504/...s/us_bin_laden

I could care either way. Although I'm a conservative Republican, I congratulate Obama for making the tough decision to go boots on the ground. And I'm certainly not one who won't believe he's dead just because I don't see a photo. Even those who doubt it can claim the photo is a fake anyway. :tinfoil:

Newspaper this morning says bin Laden was unarmed.

True dat. Even if they showed the photos, there'd be nutters queuing up to tell us they're faked.

I was pleased by the speed with which the rumours of him using his wife as a human shield were dealt with.

We don't need to make up bullshit to show what a twat he was.

I am against the release of said photo. It serves no purpose.

It's very difficult to carry around 4 jumbo jets.

it's six to one / half dozen the other. i personally don't care if i see or don't see them. he's kaput. and that's what i care about.

Didn't we have to look at Saddam's cold dead face? :confused:

It wasn't all shot to bits, though

Wasn't it kind of puffy and...dead-looking?

I guess they could put a little bandaid over his owey.

I guess that'll teach him to bring a forehead to a gunfight.

Isn't Owey the name of the guy who is taking his place in Al Quaida?

welllll with a little base, some mascara, eye liner perhaps a little blush we can make him look fresh as a daisy!

I've heard so many things over the past few days I don't know what to believe.

1. He was shot twice in the head.
2. He was shot in the cheek.
3. He was shot above the left eye.
4. He was shot once in the head and once in the chest.

All that matters is that he's dead. "It's a Sicilian message. It means Osama bin Laden sleeps with the fishes".

And whether or not he was armed, to me, is irrelevant. He needed to die.

As I said...it's very difficult to carry around 4 jumbo jets.

:rolleyes:

My doggie is happy that Bin laden is dead...but, then again, Bid laden DID shoot his paw...

:lol:

I wonder if the repubicans will be critical of this in the way they've been critical of our Libyan activities. "Obama should have consulted congress" in best sad sack voice

Owey Bin Daid

Owey? With a fucking gun, that's owey!

Nah, even the pubes can't spin this one their way. Except all the crap from LimpBalls and ParaSailin' about how lucky we are the Bushie paved the way. :lol:

So were most of the people in the twin towers

Sigh. My subtle talents, so wasted.

Hey, you know what? It's really hard to carry around 4 jumbo jets.

Ba DUM dum.

:lol2:

He had a big heed.

Heed his words. He is Jesus, you know.

ain't it the truth, sister.

What about my dog/paw joke?

Nuttin'!

Puh. :right:

I liked your paw joke. ;)

Speaking personally, as a Republican, I think that the fewer people who knew about this operation, the better. Too many cooks spoil the broth as it were.

The biggest controversy I've heard about the whole thing was what Rep. Peter King said. That was that some of the information that got the ball rolling toward the courier who eventually led us to bin Laden was obtained from waterboarding terror suspects (KSM in particular). I will go on record as saying I have absolutely no problem with "enhanced interrogation techniques" when it comes to these types of people. It's quite a bit less lethal than their technique of beheading.

Ooooooh! you crazy right-winger! How dare you state the obvious! Off with your head!

FIFY ;)

There is a very interesting article on the USA Today website discussing what his death means to those of my generation. Worth the read. I was about 14 at the time of 9/11, so my peers and I have that burned into our memories as a sudden, severe wake-up call to the way the world truly is. And now a long, dark chapter of our lives has been ended.

I doubt anything will change soon.

bin Laden's last FaceBook update:

What a shame.

Who knows, its a complicated situation so we'll have to wait and see. The intel gathered from his place could prove very valuable. Indications are that we recovered a huge amount, which even if only 25% of it is actionable will still put us significantly ahead of where we were.

If that is what you want your country to be, far be it from me to get in the way.

These: :lol2:

And I think it's a really good point about him being the bogeyman for the young adults of today.