And Trump isn't? Congress critters aren't? Explain to me her criminal behavior.

That's your opinion but do you really think I give a flying fuck what chorus the MAGA muppets are singing this week? I mean really? Nah, you can't be serious. :headshake

This guy gets it.

Bruce, by his own testimony, is not a friend to a virtuous society. You shouldn't cry ad-hominem when a party -- that is not mine -- jettisons ethics and has apparently French-kissed and taken French leave of its senses. These too are no friends of a free and virtuous society -- yet they find supporters here in this hostility. Party loyalty is not a substitute for principles. Too many now haven't had that idea.

I do not "reflexively" ad-hominem anyone. I do reprove manifest ethical lapses, and none shall deny me. I would just as readily reprove yours if any, and can one be any more fair?

HRC -- never someone to vote for -- has not been indicted for her felonious handling of classified information, the usual penalty for which is ten years and ten thousand dollars. You know what a full ten years in Leavenworth would mean for someone in her demographic. Indicted or no, investigation or no, the suspicion at the least will ever be hanging over her, of a pattern with the gray cloud of scandal ever hanging over the Clinton White House. Of course, there is also that career-opening, er, success in cattle futures. Paid off something like a thousand to one, purportedly? On the *very first try at it,* without continued or previous investment success of the same sort and field? People oddly and conveniently dead? Victim intimidation that is on record as performed by this monster of a woman? Greed and radicalism explains some few of these things, no?

Trump has lost over a billion in net worth while President, as I said -- and you falsely want to forget. That's a sign of prejudice, which I do not share and cannot be made to. Prejudiced thought I regard as lower than mole scrotums, than which there is little less respectable or elevated, not so?

As for the rest of your brainless defiance-bellow, well... all else being equal, would you not want to participate in making America greater, a successful and benevolent enterprise? Seriously, I would -- and you want to be critical of it to the point of denying it utterly :mg: Allow me to remark that this argument is not comprehensible, and I suspect it is abysmally unenlightened as well. Certainly it's a poor career being a public chew toy owing to being unable to appreciate improvements, and insisting on decrying improvements as offenses. But on their own testimony, so many Democratic partisans are just that dumb now. Dunning-Kruger effect.

That may be a nutshell explanation for public personalities Paul Krugman, the famous economist whose predictions have never been borne out, and Senator Charles Schumer, the genocide-friendly (he's gun-hostile) Jewish guy.

Team Donkey from its own words is knowable as Team Stupid; too stupid to trust with helming the republic or enhancing the economy. Their institutional suspicion of the making of wealth has been growing since the 1960's and is now rank, in both overgrowth and stink. Not satisfactory.

Bruce is a known real world good guy. I know him by his actions. He is not someone who believes magical thinking will help people, he helps people. Adopt his ethic.

Bruce is a known real world good guy.
 

I believe him to be sincerely well-intentioned.

I'll esteem him virtuous once he goes libertarian. But he will need to do that to do good politics rather than statist politics. It'll clue him about why I use "statist" as a swearword.

And all this time I thought xoB was just another run-of-the-mill whacko extremist. Goes to show how appearances can be deceiving over the internet.

Whacko it outta the park, maybe! ;)

The danger of the 'net is that as far as it is concerned, you are exactly what you say you are.

But not what other people say you are, grandiloquent protestations to the contrary notwithstanding.

I am in complete agreement with Griff.
"Adopt his ethic." I have.

Definitely not. Especially not when I'm the best at grandiloquence to be found here.

FTFY

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Sure, but you seem to be religious about it.

Politics isn't a religion. It is an interest.

And something I like about Trump and other Republicans (particularly the less-insider sorts, DJT being a madly and greedily resented outsider and outside force that is just what the free republic needs after generations of the opposite) is how they on occasion think like libertarians. There has been for four generations a cry for running the government in a businesslike fashion. Trump has answered that cry at long last. Four more years will answer the cry even better. Plus sequelae -- really putting the end to the era of big government, that we all may be the wealthier, breathe the freer, and make our sexual desirability the greater. Makes America the greater too, hmm? See, my eyes are open -- and there are those who are so philosophically bankrupt that they have run out of substantive rebuttals, have exhausted their antifreedom arguments and sallies, and ad-hominemwise tell me I'm "pompous" for being open-eyed. This is a dimbulb's attempt at saving face, and it is contemptible. When you can't, simply can't, brighten the free republic, you're a mess.

Likewise, and equally valid, is the urge to have plumbers conduct brain surgery.

Category errors are a thing.

He's right, look at all the successful businesses running a trillion dollar deficit.:rolleyes:

What has been keeping GE alive for many decades? A massive deficit (directly traceable to management that used cost controls to stifle innovation) has been masked by selling off division after division. As if selling assets is acceptable profit (only business school graduates promote that lie).

Previously posted were other GE assets sold to mask massive losses. Add to that list latest sales of their biopharmaceutical division to Danaher Corp and their aircraft leasing division to Apollo (an investment retirement fund). Then a massive deficit, that has existed for decades, again is not obvious to stock brokers and other bean counters. America is selling off to mask losses created by business school (bean counter) graduates who routinely stifle innovation. Innovation being the only source of actual profits, growth, and jobs.

Examples of people, with a plumber's education, getting rich by selling off America. And so the expression "going down the drain".

Companies running massive deficits to mask unproductive management include Boeing and Lockheed-Martin. First indication starts with underfunded pension funds. Which has been using a 'tax cut inspired bubble' on the stock market to mask increasing financial losses.

Sears used sale of Kmart to play fast and loose with money games. Now on the list is Xerox trying to do same with HP. How curious. Those are the same games that Trump used. Including four Atlantic City casinos that never once earned a profit. But Trump is an honest man. So that must not be a concern.

It absolutely is a religion. Everyone gets to be irrational and accuse everyone else of being irrational.

That's what religion is.

You've committed one, and were not forced into it.

The Trump administration's philosophy is what running government in a businesslike fashion looks like -- and whaddaya know; it worked. People who think this can't work, or for some reason shouldn't (I can't think of any) aren't thinking like libertarians. They ought to start.

You're going to fuck yourself up badly with that philosophy. Don't do it. I don't.

Okay.

Yes it did work. He stiffs contractors - at least 3500. He defaulted on loans from every major bank. The mafia also calls that 'just business'. Amazing how only honest people see that reality. While corrupt people love the way he cheats and lies.

Also amazing how the most easily brainwashed resort to profanity to justify their misinformation.

Indeed? Is what you want to call "stiffing contractors" actually, say, a lawsuit over nonfulfillment by said contractors? Cranks are so very seldom reliable reporters, O Tantalus. My mentality being manifestly non-crankish puts you in a very deep hole.

Absolutely no one who is taken seriously points to the Present POTUS as stiffing anybody, and unprejudiced people have taken notice. Persons of prejudice can't afford to take that notice lest they have to turn in their sheets, hoods, and red-white-and-black brassards. At least then these emperors of penile encephaly will have no clothes.

No one who worships this potus takes anyone seriously who reveal his crimes.
You don't know what the fuck your talking about. He's a dyed in the wool criminal, the con man tax cheat thief you wish you could be.

https://theweek.com/articles/783976/...ltime-swindles



3. A paint seller and event workers in Florida

After putting in long hours for a special event at Trump National Doral, a Miami resort, 48 servers had to sue for unpaid overtime. The settlements averaged around $800 per worker, but went as high as $3,000 in one case. On top of that, a paint shop owner named Juan Carlos Enriquez also sued Trump's business, claiming he never got the final payment for a paint shipment to the same resort. In 2017, after a three-year legal fight, a court found in Enriquez's favor, and ordered Trump's company to pay the final $32,000, plus $300,000 in legal fees.

https://www.miamiherald.com/entertai...e91353232.html

https://www.mediamatters.org/coronav...dnt-be-trusted


It's probably wise to consider that when these guys say "Deep State" they're talking about anyone who may have expertise in their field and is a government employee. Government incompetence becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when we elect anti-government folks to run the government.

https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Risk-Mi.../dp/1324002646

From Fortune Magazine:
Why U.S. Law Makes It Easy for Donald Trump To Stiff Contractors