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ThreadHijackMan 11-20-2003 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by dave
.......... almost guaranteeing that your daughter grows up as fucked up as you are........
Looks like I got here a little late.


So.......how bout that PS2 Syc just bought. Isn't that cool!?

elSicomoro 11-20-2003 12:41 PM

It totally rules...I have a numb left thumb that proves it.

dave 11-20-2003 12:52 PM

That's the problem with the PS2 controller - the D-Pad kinda sucks. It does lend itself to numb left thumbs. The Xbox Controller S D-Pad is much better in that regard.

I still enjoy the two triggers on a PS2 controller better, however the extra depth on the Xbox Controller S triggers is better overall for driving games and ones where a lot or a little of something makes a big difference.

wolf 11-20-2003 01:42 PM

Need a little advice here ...

Sanity Clause (in the form of my mother and sister) has been instructed to provide me with a GBA. I do however have to poll the assembled multitudes here to learn something ... Do I want the original configuration, or the foldup? I'm leaning toward the folding one, just because it looks so fucking cool, but I have heard that the button positions are more difficult to deal with than the original config.

(I have a pretty good batch of GB and GBC games, and I'm hoping not to become a total damn gamehog right away for the GBA. I'm of course going to be requesting Super Mario World (one of my favorite SNES games) to start, but would be interested in hearing other's recommendations as well.)

dave 11-20-2003 01:48 PM

I would recommend the GBA SP (folding one). We have two of those, as well as one of the original.

The biggest reason I would recommend it, honestly, is because the original GameBoy Advance has no lighted screen, meaning that you need a very good light source to play games. The GBA SP, on the other hand, has a side-lighted screen, so you can play it very comfortably in the dark (or in a dimly lit room, or in the car when slang is driving). I find the original GBA nearly impossible to play unless I'm sitting directly under a light. Rather inconvenient.

Also, the battery situation should be considered. The GBA SP has a built-in rechargeable battery and comes with a charger. Battery life is excellent on the built-in battery, and can be extended by turning off the light (a single button push). The original, by comparison, uses two AA batteries. It gets pretty good battery life, but it's one more thing that you have to worry about.

The buttons on both models are comfortable, but I find the GBA SP to be a bit better in this regard. I don't particularly care for the shoulder buttons on the original GBA; I feel that the unit has to be held somewhat awkward to comfortably rest my fingers on them. And awkward and comfortable don't go together. Whereas on the SP, my fingers naturally rest on the triggers, and all is right with the world.

The only knock against the SP I can think of is that it does not have a headphone port proper. You need to buy a fucking adaptor to use headphones. It's not even included. How fucking retarded is that?

perth 11-20-2003 01:48 PM

Get the folding one. Its got a lighted screen, which puts it way out in front of the original, button issues notwithstanding. Besides, I can play GBA fine with these monstrous hands. It might be a little bit uncomfortable after a while, but really no worse than the original GBA.

wolf 11-20-2003 01:57 PM

Not having headphones means that it's easier to annoy whomever I'm playing near. Great for long train trips, for example (I'll have to make a point of taking Amtrack to RI next time, rather than driving).

april 11-20-2003 01:57 PM

This topic went completely off...cool.

Dagney 11-20-2003 01:58 PM

It happens April, just hang on and enjoy the ride, we never know where we're going to end up :)

lumberjim 11-21-2003 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by april
This topic went completely off...cool.
and its all because of threadHijackman........of course, he must know that any mention of a video game would spurn at least 7 related posts, and completely derail the direction of said thread. It's what he does. He's ThreadHijackman. get the Action Figure Instores now!

ladysycamore 11-21-2003 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by april
Oh and yeah I wanted a baby at 17. Yeah there'll be alot of smartass comments on that one I'm just waiting for them.
Okaaayyy, but why? Did you even take into consideration ALL that is involved in taking on such a responsibility especially at such a young age:

The estimates show that a single parent family with an income less than $36,800 before taxes will spend $111,570 to raise a child born in 1999 to age 18. The western two-parent counterpart will spend $130,890. Although the actual expenditure is less for single-parent families, it represents a larger percentage of income.

Children--Costs of raising a child continue to rise


Sure you could get on all kinds of programs, and have a ton of help from family...but why go through all of that? :confused: Being 17, in school, and trying to graduate is pressure enough, and NOW you have (and wanted!!) a kid on top of all of that?!?! I agree with the person who said that it's cheaper to just get the condoms.
*shaking my head*

Jesus, at 17 I remember just being glad I had left high school, starting college, working part time, and hanging out with friends. *shrugs*

:rolleyes:

ladysycamore 11-21-2003 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by april
All my friends that had babies those were supposed "acciendents". I wanted a baby only b/c I thought they were cute. I didn't consider the responsibility of one. Yeah I made a mistake but I'm taking care of her, she is mine and I will do what I need to do.
*sighing* How utterly irresponsible. You put the fate and well being of another human being in your hands just because babies are cute?? :eek:

I weep for the "future".

123tess 11-21-2003 01:12 PM

I was playing a game the other night, with a woman whose profile stated she was 31 years of age, a grandmother of 5 with the 6th on the way. When I asked (wishing )if they were stepchildren....well.....
She was pregnant at 14, and again at 15, married at 17 to someone 20 years her senior. The first baby now has 3 babies, and the second has 2 and a third on the way. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

And she was very proud. Said that, "God has a plan for each and every one of us....his plan for me was to have babies."
hmm. What could I say ...?
:confused:

april 11-21-2003 01:19 PM

A friend of mine is a senior in high school. She has a one year old, a five month old and is pregnant again.

FileNotFound 11-21-2003 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by april
A friend of mine is a senior in high school. She has a one year old, a five month old and is pregnant again.
Parasites.

april 11-21-2003 01:25 PM

A piece of advice 123tess STAY AWAY FROM FNF!

FileNotFound 11-21-2003 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by april
A piece of advice 123tess STAY AWAY FROM FNF!
Why? I have no problem with 123tess. We seems to feel the same way about people brining more kids into the world than they can support.

I maybe a bit more extreme in my opinion, but we're on the same side so to say.

You on the other hand...use the link and go read a book or something.

darclauz 12-02-2003 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by juju
Most of what I discuss here is my opinion. If I qualified all of it, it'd get old and redundant real quick. So, I am content to simply clarify my facts instead.

You should know by now that I am always open to the possibility being wrong.

well done, juju. you definitely come out the bigger man here. =) and she's gorgeous............ =)

darclauz 12-02-2003 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by 123tess
I was playing a game the other night, with a woman whose profile stated she was 31 years of age, a grandmother of 5 with the 6th on the way. When I asked (wishing )if they were stepchildren....well.....
She was pregnant at 14, and again at 15, married at 17 to someone 20 years her senior. The first baby now has 3 babies, and the second has 2 and a third on the way. aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

And she was very proud. Said that, "God has a plan for each and every one of us....his plan for me was to have babies."
hmm. What could I say ...?
:confused:

things you could have said:

1 - feet in a bucket
2 - get a vibrator
3 - lobotomy
4 - tubes tied
5 - learn to read
6 - teach the family not to whore around
7 - go with plan B

april 12-02-2003 01:31 PM

4 - tubes tied


Yeah and like EVERYONE has the $$ for that!:rolleyes:

FileNotFound 12-02-2003 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by april
4 - tubes tied


Yeah and like EVERYONE has the $$ for that!:rolleyes:


Oh yeah...SOOO much more expensive than raising a kid.

Retard.

darclauz 12-02-2003 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by april
4 - tubes tied


Yeah and like EVERYONE has the $$ for that!:rolleyes:

a 15 year old who had been pregnant twice already could find help from various organizations with that, if she worked as hard at putting some thought in as she did putting out.

april 12-02-2003 01:57 PM

Ok are you FNF's brother?

She is a friend its not as easy has you think!

jinx 12-02-2003 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by april
4 - tubes tied


Yeah and like EVERYONE has the $$ for that!:rolleyes:

Apparently it's free if you're on medical/welfare. At least in PA anyway...

april 12-02-2003 02:00 PM

Not in Texas its not.

For your info, the girl is getting an abortion.

$400

EXPENSivE!

FileNotFound 12-02-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by april
Ok are you FNF's brother?

She is a friend its not as easy has you think!


Yes April, anyone who agrees with me is my relative or my clone or my fake account or whatnot..

God forbid somebody other than I believe that you're a hopeless idiot.

You and your friends are all prime candidates for Grouphug.us

vsp 12-02-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by 123tess
Said that, "God has a plan for each and every one of us....his plan for me was to have babies."
hmm. What could I say ...?
:confused:

"That's great -- his plan for ME was to eat babies. We're a natural match!"

That's about as rational as you can get with someone who actually uses the God Wants Me To rationale for her actions.

FileNotFound 12-02-2003 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by april
Not in Texas its not.

For your info, the girl is getting an abortion.

$400

EXPENSivE!

Still cheaper than birth and much cheaper than the first 2 years of the childs life with the vaccines and frequent checkups.

jinx 12-02-2003 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by vsp


"That's great -- his plan for ME was to eat babies. We're a natural match!"

That's about as rational as you can get with someone who actually uses the God Wants Me To rationale for her actions.


GET IN MY BELLY!




Baby: The other white meat.

FileNotFound 12-02-2003 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by vsp


"That's great -- his plan for ME was to eat babies. We're a natural match!"

That's about as rational as you can get with someone who actually uses the God Wants Me To rationale for her actions.

Give birth at home and eat the baby. Thats way cheaper than abortion or rasing the child, plus a great way to feed the kids you already have.

darclauz 12-02-2003 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by FileNotFound



Yes April, anyone who agrees with me is my relative or my clone or my fake account or whatnot..

God forbid somebody other than I believe that you're a hopeless idiot.

You and your friends are all prime candidates for Grouphug.us

bro!

darclauz 12-02-2003 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by april
Ok are you FNF's brother?

She is a friend its not as easy has you think!

having been a 15 year old girl......... it is that easy.

it's all about personal responsibility.

all of us go through it.

once we have established personal responsibility, then we take the consequences for our actions, we get help, figure out what the problem is..............

or join the cellar and whine ad nauseum.

FileNotFound 12-02-2003 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by darclauz


bro!


Gha!
Impossible....Spanish stuff freaks me out and you got "Suspendí el español tres veces." written next to your name...as far as I know that might say "I want to cook and eat your eyeballs in your brain cavity!"

april 12-02-2003 02:08 PM

Suspendí el español tres veces.

What does that mean?

darclauz 12-02-2003 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by FileNotFound



Gha!
Impossible....Spanish stuff freaks me out and you got "Suspendí el español tres veces." written next to your name...as far as I know that might say "I want to cook and eat your eyeballs in your brain cavity!"

freetranslation.com

FileNotFound 12-02-2003 02:11 PM

I suspended the Spaniard three times.

Still says nothing to me! It might as well mean "I want to eat your eyeball brain soup out of your skull!"

lumberjim 12-02-2003 02:20 PM

isn't tube tying relatively permanent? what about when the girl gets her shit together and is actually ready to rear a child? I am refraining from judging april's ability to perform said rearing, in this case, but wouldn't an ounce of prevention (as opposed to the pound of prevention that sterilization represents) be more appropriate?

as far as baby eating goes, i'm against it. they give me gas, ......and a modicum of guilt. why not donate them to science? or a reality show?

food for thought

pun intended

FileNotFound 12-02-2003 02:22 PM

It's not permanent; (it CAN be) but generaly it is not.

Strings are tied over the tubes. Thats it. The strings can just as easily be untied.

I am not a doctor and I have not done research on this recently but thats what I know.

vsp 12-02-2003 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by lumberjim
[b]isn't tube tying relatively permanent? what about when the girl gets her shit together and is actually ready to rear a child? I am refraining from judging april's ability to perform said rearing, in this case, but wouldn't an ounce of prevention (as opposed to the pound of prevention that sterilization represents) be more appropriate?
That depends. Since the subject of the "tubes tied" comment was a 31-year-old granny-of-five, I think it's pretty safe to suggest that she has neither the desire, self-control, nor self-awareness to practice less dramatic birth-control methods. If she believes that God's role for her is to churn out kids like a vending machine (insert roll of dimes, hit M-9, wait nine months, wait for it to go *thud* into the retrieval tray), trying to impress the realities of child-rearing upon her is probably fruitless.

Of course, nobody's saying that she should have it done _to her_; for obvious reasons, it has to be a voluntary choice. But it's a damn fine suggestion, as is giving copies of Tube-Tying For Dummies as Christmas gifts to her teenage kids, or at least a couple of cases of condoms for each (which'll also help keep them from contracting something nasty).

Undertoad 12-02-2003 03:09 PM

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as far as baby eating goes, i'm against it. they give me gas,
I told you just stick with the tender muscle meat and you had to dive into the intestines.

lumberjim 12-02-2003 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Undertoad


I told you just stick with the tender muscle meat and you had to dive into the intestines.

you know me, all or nutin, baby!

ladysycamore 12-02-2003 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by lumberjim
isn't tube tying relatively permanent?
I think it depends on the sterilization method done. If the tubes are tied, then it can be reversed as opposed to burning, freezing, implants in the tubes, etc.

Quote:

what about when the girl gets her shit together and is actually ready to rear a child? I am refraining from judging april's ability to perform said rearing, in this case, but wouldn't an ounce of prevention (as opposed to the pound of prevention that sterilization represents) be more appropriate?


You'd be surprised how many women under 25 would love to get sterlized. They are more focused on career than childrearing, and that's why many wait later in life to have kids, or opt to have none at all. The thing is that many doctors will not perform the procedure because THEY think that the girl is too young, she'll change her mind later, etc.

I'm on a newsgroup of childfree folk, and many of them are young girls asking how to find doctors that WILL perform the procedure, no questions asked.

ladysycamore 12-02-2003 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by FileNotFound



Yes April, anyone who agrees with me is my relative or my clone or my fake account or whatnot..

God forbid somebody other than I believe that you're a hopeless idiot.

You and your friends are all prime candidates for Grouphug.us

I peeked at that site..Da hell?!!? LOL, wow is all I can say! :D

OnyxCougar 12-02-2003 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by darclauz


a 15 year old who had been pregnant twice already could find help from various organizations with that, if she worked as hard at putting some thought in as she did putting out.

Find a decent doctor, medicare or otherwise, who will sterilize a 15 year old girl and I'll be really surprised. I had 2 kids, 2 additional pregnancies and was 26 years old and the doctor (the one I was paying, and NOT on an HMO), refused. So did 3 other doctors.

So it's not so easy to get tubes tied. Not that I don't think it's a great idea... having one baby so young is a mistake (or plain stupidity) and having more babies after that so young is straight up stupidity.


note: before everyone freaks out about my use of the word "mistake", I don't mean to imply that the child has less worth, but that the parents in question made a mistake, be that in "I thought babies were cute, and I wanted one as a teenager" or "I chose to have unprotected sex."

SteveDallas 12-02-2003 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
I had 2 kids, 2 additional pregnancies and was 26 years old and the doctor (the one I was paying, and NOT on an HMO), refused. So did 3 other doctors.

So did you have it done eventually??? I have to admit I'm shocked. I can sort of see the reluctance to perform irreversible sterilization on a teenager. But a grown woman? Refusing to tie her tubes if she doesn't have kids because she might decide she wants some later is meddling, IMO. Refusing a woman who already has 2 kids and doesn't want any more is just plain damn idiotic.

IMO.

elSicomoro 12-02-2003 09:33 PM

So April, what is to become of your bf and your baby?

insoluble 12-02-2003 11:56 PM

She'll find another retard that will fuck her unprotected and pump out a few more "cuties" - maybe she'll get really lucky and her dad won't take care of the damn thing for her and she'll be forced to realize what being a real parent is like.

April - did mommy get sick of supporting your little "family" and you out? Maybe you should learn a lesson from it.

wolf 12-03-2003 12:26 AM

From what I've seen ...

Teenage moms either GET the idea that you should have finished being a teenager FIRST before becoming a mom and step up to the responsibility plate, or continue to be as dumb as a box of rocks and continue to have unprotected sex in the hopes that one of the by blows will actually LOVE her in the special way she truly desires rather than being an unending source of frustration, puke, and poop.

lumberjim 12-03-2003 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by insoluble
She'll find another retard that will fuck her unprotected and pump out a few more "cuties" - maybe she'll get really lucky and her dad won't take care of the damn thing for her and she'll be forced to realize what being a real parent is like.

April - did mommy get sick of supporting your little "family" and you out? Maybe you should learn a lesson from it.


....hmmm. insoluble, am i detecting a shade of animosity? where's the love? scratch that: where's the apathy? April doesn't deserve nastiness like that. And it makes you look bad. shake it off. stupid is as stupid does. you don't have to personally attack and taunt her. she does a fine job of conveying her faults all by her self. She made a very serious mistake because she didn't know any better. either because she was never educated and made to truly see the consequences of unprotected sex, or because she is too dumb to live. Still, she kind of has to justify this situation to herself in order to protect her own self image. So, she bases her beliefs upon her situation.

and April, it seems like you only open your mouth to switch feet. you might want to keep the details of your personal life such as which school you'll be attending to yourself. did you not see that whole HaywardNelson v. Sycamore privacy debate? Cmon, honey, that thing at the top of your neck is for more than eating and talking.
Ljim

insoluble 12-03-2003 12:45 AM

you're very right LJ - I just get angry when I see her posts - to me she represents all the retatrded teen mother "i want a cute baby" bullshit mentality. The last thing anyone needs is another stupid kid in the world, most likely to end up on welfare and pumping out more stupids. This is the first contact I have ever had with such an individual, so I guess I just have a lot of stored up anger at the mindset to offload.

Whit 12-03-2003 12:56 AM

      If this is the first contact you've had with such a person then wouldn't it be more informative to leave her to say whatever she wants so that you could get a peek at her thought processes? I mean clearly she's not going to lead you down the path to enlightenment or anything, but she does an amazing job of laying out flawed thought processes for us to pick at with gloved hands. I'm always facinated by what people will do and say to get the attention she obviously craves.
      Of course on that note you and FNF are effectively keeping her here. By giving attention, even negative attention, you are giving her what she is here for. So, she'll never leave. Want her to go? Quit talking to her. Just something to consider.

lumberjim 12-03-2003 01:18 AM

yeah....you're pretty fuckin smart, whit.

so DO we want her to leave? I don't.
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quote:Originally posted by r9703410
Explain that to where I can understand it.



El, that could be a VERY tall order.

from her brief but glorious history, i would make no assumptions pertaining to resident understanding of multi step tasks.

r2d2, please never leave the cellar. you represent a very important ingredient: you seem to have a natural knack for setting yourself up to be blasted......and, frankly, we need that. If for no other reason than warm ups for the residents with fully functioning cerebrums.

you're a fluffer, yes?

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april 12-03-2003 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by sycamore
So April, what is to become of your bf and your baby?
Bf, ass.

Baby cuter than ever.


One day I'll put her pic on her.

One day, not soon.

Whit 12-03-2003 08:24 AM

      Jim, I was responding to those who are actively trying to get rid of her. I'm certainly not, if someone wants to post, I say let them. It's not like she's trolling, more like she's a troll magnet. Pointing out the flaw in the strategy if you will.
      I've never dealt with April personally, I never saw a reason to. Yes I know I'm posting directly after her, nothing in her post that I wish to address. So, I don't. This said I'll not be insulting her either. It's equally pointless. 'Sides, it's my personal belief that attacking people that annoy you instead of showing a little tolerance leaves you more bitter for the experience. Just what I've seen.

Whit 12-03-2003 08:56 AM

      I just received a PM from April thanking me for being nice. I'm okay with this but prefer to minimize dialogue via PM. Personal preference. So, here is my response for the whole peanut gallery.

      April, I think a lot of the problems you are having is largely due to the self-involved nature of your posts. I said I've never felt an urge to respond to you because I never see you post about anything but yourself. This means, of course, when someone takes issue with what you say they are taking issue with you. This is why I said you are a troll magnet. You are clearly an emotional person, which comes across in your posts. While this is not a bad thing, you tend to use it badly. Instead of showing passion for a solid point, you show passion irrationally or completely without a point. This not only makes it easy to make fun of you, some people will do so reflexively. So yeah, you are just painting a target on your forehead
      Getting back to the point of always talking about yourself, what other interests do you have? Do you have any questions about any political or philosophical situations? I'd have fallen in love with the Cellar at your age because of the sheer number of well read thought provoking people ready to share the info they've accumulated. Hell, that's a large part of why I love it now. I've asked a number of questions on a number of issues, simply because the people here knew more than me about them, and I recognize that.
      If you truly want to be a worthy addition to the Cellar you need to moderate the sharing of your own story. Mix in what you heard on the news. Ask for more info when others know more. As long as you continue to be your own primary subject of discussion you will continue to draw fire from large numbers of people.

lumberjim 12-03-2003 08:56 AM

yeah, that's why i said youre fuckin smart....i wasn't being sarcastic....you are right on about this......i like to throw a few grenades, myself, but it's more for my own amusement than any actual animosity toward april.

Whit 12-03-2003 09:06 AM

      Heh, I've been known to make a few posts just to stir up arguements myself. I'm a big believer in making fun of anything and everything, within limits. I've just never been amused by kicking someone when they're down. 'Cept maybe Radar...
      By the by, thanks for the compliment. Me am much big smart.:biggrin:

ladysycamore 12-03-2003 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Whit
'Sides, it's my personal belief that attacking people that annoy you instead of showing a little tolerance leaves you more bitter for the experience. Just what I've seen.
But, but...you say that like it's a bad thing. :D

I'm joking..but only somewhat.

Whit 12-03-2003 09:54 AM

      As usual, you make a good point. I think anyway. If you are speaking of disillusionment then I'm with you. Think I'll start a thread on the subject in Philosophy. Plus there is the short term amusment. Of course the ability to think long term is one of the things that seperates adults from kids.

ladysycamore 12-03-2003 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by wolf
From what I've seen ...

Teenage moms either GET the idea that you should have finished being a teenager FIRST before becoming a mom and step up to the responsibility plate, or continue to be as dumb as a box of rocks and continue to have unprotected sex in the hopes that one of the by blows will actually LOVE her in the special way she truly desires rather than being an unending source of frustration, puke, and poop.

Oh my!! *does the "I'm not worthy" jesture* :D
Nail...hit...head.


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