Since I'm already on it, I figure I'll be among the first to be rounded up for those little summer camps he's planning, you know the ones with the sign "Arbeit macht frei" over the entrance? But actually its a very freeing thought like when I was 13 years old and the minister at the church school I was attending told me that I was going to hell. It was like being given carte blanche. Since I was going to hell, anyhow, I figured why worry about pleasing God any further, if by the age of 13 I was already on the perdition list?

So I figure I may as well act as ultra left wing as I please - hell, I may even join the communist party (IS there still a communist party?). No liberal excess is going to be too much for me, since I'm going to be rounded up regardless. ;)

next up - Over the Top "and when i turn my hat around backwards i'm like a machine. i can beat any leftist trying to steal my money."

Rambo "they drew first blood colonel, now i am going to make them pay. they took my money, now i'm going to destroy the welfare system from the inside"

Deathrace 2000 "1300 points for a democrat, 4000 for anyone named reagan"

anyone else have ideas here?

dude. he was just trying to sound cool. he didnt mean nigger. he menat nigga. but nigga conveys too much coolnes to the target.....hence nigger. and possibly he was trying to push a button. maybe he thinks radar is a racist?

Ah, well then...

My bad dawg!

I'm not paraphrasing anyone. America is falling apart and you are either part of the problem, or you are part of the solution. Those who vote for Republicans or Democrats are the problem. They perpetuate and worsen the problem by voting over and over for the people who created the problem in the first place. They make government larger, costlier, and more intrusive. Those who vote for these people are responsible for poverty, sickness due to lack of healthcare, unemployment, poor education, loss of freedom, attacks on civil rights, and even murder. :mad:

Guys like me are the ONLY ones who will actually take steps to fix the problems those people have caused.

nicely put. That and a few cherries short of a cake.

are all dems and reps a part of the evil hoard? because i was thinking that our elected officials are each individual souls. unfortunately most of them are affiliated with one of the parties, because that is the only way to have a real chance at being elected.

i take issue with someone who will only vote if there is a D or an R next to a name. but i won't refuse to vote for someone with a D or an R either. step back, look at the individuals. does there philosophy match with what you think is the right course for the country? vote for them. be aware that they will fail and disappoint you at times, no matter how good they are. if they prove to disappoint too often don't vote for them. but your stance that everyone else is the problem and only you and your select few like minded individuals is a little over the top.

you may actually have more people swayed to your philosophy if brought the rhetoric down a notch. i don't disagree with everything you say, but i find myself pissed when i do agree with you oftentimes simply because your approach to most issues is so annoying to me.

but back to the earlier issue: i am not reagan's biggest fan, but have some respect for the office, if not the man. i think that is a major problem in america today. people have forgotten that whether or not we like "pres john jones" or not, he is the president. show respect for the office, if you can't manage it for the man.

IMO the R's started a very nasty tradition in 92/3 when they decided to go after clinton on a personal level all the way through his presedency. the D's have picked up where they left off and gone after bush in the same way.
how can we expect the world to show respect to our leaders if we don't?

edit: spelling

so if you choose not to vote at all because you are disgusted with the 3 choices: worser of 2 evils / lesser of two evils / wasted vote, are you part of the problem or the solution?

I appreciate your passion, radar. I agree with what you're saying. but, OC has a point. you could do with a bit more decorum, and you'd win more people over to the good guy's team. know what i'm saying? this goes back to the frustration i started to express earlier. We're on the same side of things usually, but you go about arguing our side in such a way as to make me cringe.

oh, and just in case you actually DO use your ignore feature, this is what cougar said that i was referring to:

yeah, i remember. marichiko is too. got it.

He's directly responded to at least one post I've made since he claimed I was on ignore so even if he does have it on, he still reads them.

IF you choose not to vote, you're part of the wasted vote. A vote for a libertarian is never a wasted vote. In fact it's the only vote that isn't wasted in my opinion. If you vote for the major parties, you're voting for more of the same (wasted vote). If you don't vote, you've decided to let a vocal minority choose for you and you've wasted your chance to fix things (wasted vote). If you vote for a third party your vote isn't necessarily wasted, but if you vote for one that acts like the major parties like the Green party, you're pretty much wasting your vote too.

When I'm speaking to intelligent people with an open mind I use a bit more tact. But people like OC and the others on my list have already shown they are a waste and are beyond hope.

I'll readily admit that sometimes my fatal flaw is that I am more interested in winning arguments than in winning people. But generally those who want to argue aren't interested in change anyway.

I do, and I do for good reason. I'd appreciate you not re-posting the ignorance of those people if you can avoid it.

And as far as getting elected, I absolutely will be elected without a doubt. It will most likely be a lower office at first like city council, but I'll work my way up. I will be a member of Congress or higher before I die and some statist wants to spit on my casket and piss on my headstone.

It's also ironic to see someone with so little tact and total lack of charm or class suggesting I can't be elected for lack of charm when they use phrases like "shit sandwich".

Originally posted by Radar Nonsense. The government of Radarland would be as minimalist as possible and have no revenue from which to fund anything other than the military and other life-support functions. In that world, how are the levels of poverty, sickness and education improved? If anything, there would be MORE poverty, MORE sickness and LESS education. If you want to choke off the supply of tax revenue then you get all private-sector supplied services.

One scenario: since the gummint has no tax money to build roads, that means that all roads are privately supplied meaning they are all toll-roads meaning you'll DIE on the way to the hospital because you can't pay the TOLL to get there because you forgot your WALLET - wait, there are NO public ambulances. Wait, there's only ONE hospital - for the wealthiest of citizens (no hospitals can be built with tax money) and since you are an elected official -a servant of the people, that probably doesn't include you - unless you are corrupt which for now, I'll assume you aren't. SO, you die and get to spend the rest of eternity roasting on a bar-b-que spit next to former president Reagan and y'all can spit and urinate on each other for ever and ever and ever.

Not such a pretty vision, now is it?

Here, I'll save you the trouble:

Beestie, you ignorant slut.

Love, Radar.

Yeah, its fun being a blithering idiot. Actually, I just got the idea of saving all Radar's posts about me (when he was still writing them), and taking them into my disability doctor. "See, Doc, here's a man who aspires to be a member of congress and he states I'm a "blithering idiot" and all the rest of the stuff Radar said about me (nice thing about short term memory loss, I forget; and I don't feel like looking it all up). The Doc looks at all that stuff and shakes his head, "Yes, my dear, you seem to be a hopeless case. I'm awarding you permanent disability for life." WOW! Thanks, Radar!:D

wouldn't that be the WATR?

Originally posted by lumberjim You sure you wanna go there? :)

no, technically in any proper acronym you use the 4th letter of the 2nd word if you are creating it on the 3rd tuesday of a month with more than 3 letters in its name on a partially cloudy day after blinking 3 times with your left eye.

just wanted to clear up any confusion.

According to Radar, regan is ;)

hmmm. well, first off, i don't think doctors get to award anything, do they? second, you act as if you'd be proud to be on perm disbility. like it is your goal. tsk tsk tsk. what happened to rehabilitating yourself through writing therapy or whatever so that you could start taking care of yourself agian? thirdly, by saying that you were a blithering idiot too, i was trying to take the wind out of your sails before you let them fill up.

It's a little tired by now, that's all. the whole martyr thing you two do. it must make you nuts that he put you on his list. it's fairly obvious that it does. don't you think that when radar is logged in under "spivey" that he sees it and laughs heartily to himself? is that what you want? no, i don't think so. so, my ADVICE. ( not a rule, bruce) is to ignore him too. not with the ignore feature, but with your buddhism. radar is but a wave breaking against your consciousness unless you let him in.

Sorry, but I don't log in under any name but Radar on any boards.

goddammit. and i was just touting your sense of humor. lighten up, people!

oh, well, oxcuse me for being so abtuse, thon.

Ask him how to pronounce "office".

ok. your beating is back on.


aaaahhhfice, fucker.

I do have a decent sense of humor, but I am being 100% truthful when I say I never logon with another user ID.

*head thumps on desk*
ok, radar. sigh.

still a shit sammich......just ketchupier.......

did i steal that from Hmonkey or jag?....

Okay...no more armchair psychologist for you. :)

It's an ugly word for an ugly human being.

[quote]Originally posted by lookout123

people have forgotten that whether or not we like "pres john jones" or not, he is the president. show respect for the office, if you can't manage it for the man.

[quote]

This I have often heard from Americans and I have not understood.. I don't think it a healty attitude to hold too much reverence or respect for a politician. What ever their party colours, by nature of having arrived to the top of "the greasy pole" some of the grease has probably rubbed off on to them. They have power and could abuse it, a cynical disrespectful attitude would be a more healthy attitude.

If you need a national figurehead, I think it would be better to do as other countries do, seperate the job into prime minister a politician and head of state (President or if you must King) a non-politician. The Head of States job is figurehead and protection of the constitution.

Remember, the purpose of democrary is to save us from tyranny

oh, i got that ......just referring to a funny post i saw ...idon't know where. it was either jag or happy monkey...or maybe both that said it......

what, no pot joke? :) :blunt:

Nah...gotta keep things fresh.

Here it is. A group effort between sycamore and myself.

No, they don't LJ. And that was a joke about using Radar's own venom for the sake of a cause he despises, O.K.? So, no I don't want to be on SSDI for life. And I don't understand your third point????

I know I have a tendency to do the "martyr thing." I apologize for this, and I've apologized before, and I'll probably have to apologize again at some point. One symptom of my neurological difficulty is that my temper has become paper thin. I used to be the most easy going person in the world, and now look at me cross-eyed and I turn into a bitch, I admit it. I don't like bringing this point up because to me it feels like a cop out ("oh I'm a sick person, I can't help myself" whine, whine, whine. I actually DO try to avoid doing such things). If you want to read just a little of my story it's here: http://www.csindy.com/csindy/2003-12-18/cover.html
But its not required reading by any means.

I didn't know Radar had a "nome de guerre." Doesn't it say somewhere on this board that you can't do that? So that's news to me. How do I explain my situation without coming off as whining? That's a serious question, and I'd love a serious reply. Should I make no mention of it when someone does me an incredible kindness? Should I avoid expressing my frustration when I make some REALLY stupid mistake because of my memory? Should I never mention the fact that I'm terrified much of the time because I don't know what's going to happen to me? Maybe bringing those things up is "playing the martyr", but those things are just basic facts of my life.

So how do I get a "nome de guerre"? I was just thinking how I'd love to impersonate the person I once was and create a cyber character for myself where the past 7 or 8 years of my life never happened. I don't like being critisized any more than anyone else does. I'm tired of always feeling like I need to defend myself. Tell me how to pull off the name change and you got it.

I htink the martyr comment was just referring to you and Onyx "playing martyr" over RADAR's ignore list. I hope that's all it was anyway, because I dont see that you have been the martyr over your disability at all.

Oh god he's gone to paraphrasing a movie now?? A Stallone movie? Sheesh! :rolleyes:

Fucker.

[quote]Originally posted by Yelof
[quote]Originally posted by lookout123

people have forgotten that whether or not we like "pres john jones" or not, he is the president. show respect for the office, if you can't manage it for the man.

Quote:

This I have often heard from Americans and I have not understood.. I don't think it a healty attitude to hold too much reverence or respect for a politician. What ever their party colours, by nature of having arrived to the top of "the greasy pole" some of the grease has probably rubbed off on to them. They have power and could abuse it, a cynical disrespectful attitude would be a more healthy attitude. If you need a national figurehead, I think it would be better to do as other countries do, seperate the job into prime minister a politician and head of state (President or if you must King) a non-politician. The Head of States job is figurehead and protection of the constitution. Remember, the purpose of democrary is to save us from tyranny

I was with you on the first part, but figurehead, no. We have plenty of undeserving celebrities to look up to.
Respect the office is fine, but ex-presidents go in the same bin with ex-wives. :)

i think you guys are getting the ideas of "respect" and "blindly worship" mixed up. they shouldn't get a free pass from any negative comment about them, but damn - we have fallen a long way from the days when the media wouldn't photograph FDR in awkward positions with his wheelchair - they generally tried to get standing shots of him. they did this from a desire to show the office respect. the president should not be seen as weak and unsupported. it is difficult for the rest of the world to respect him/the office if all the world sees is our own citizens endlessly disrespecting the man/the office of the president.

both parties and the media are equally guilty of dragging the presidency through the mud. i see no problem in going after the policies/politics of the individual, but i have a serious problem with going after the individual. it is not helpful to anyone, and i believe it is just plain wrong.

Beautifully said. **Applause***

With all due respect, guys, it's all about perception. I don't respect our current president, and I'm sure there are plenty of people that didn't respect Reagan. Just because someone doesn't respect the person doesn't make them bad.

As far as Radar...well, I think this should answer your questions:

http://ciberbosque.org/images/sycamore/koolaid4.gif

Oh, admit it. You're a martyr, too. Anyone who makes any response what-so-ever to Radar's negative comments about them is a martyr. Live with it.:rolleyes:

Eh, wrong person, Onyx.

I am biting my keyboard trying to not make the obvious response. I am a good girl, I am a good girl... (breathes deeply). There, it passed, at least for now.;)

this is what i'm talking about. every other post you and cougar make is a cloyingly sarcastic barb about being maligned by freakin radar. i'm not saying you are 'martyrs' in the literal sense. i was referring to your 'martyr routine' -- jokingly bemoaning your mistreatment and denial by radar. over and over and over and over and over...........and over and over and over.

what i said had nothing at all to do with your symptoms. Not unless whining is one of the symptoms of CO poisoning or depression.

but, since you brought it up....again:

The thing about a message board is that it levels the playing field. you could be a quadriplegic pygmi homosexual typing with your penis, and i wouldnt know the difference. it also means that you should stop trying to use it as an excuse or a defense for what you write.

Don't think i'm saying this to be mean to you. You're a big girl, and I think you can tell the difference between mean spirited attacks, and plainly stated feedback from someone who cares enough to tell you about it. If you ever see me come out of the bathroom with toilet paper stuck to my shoe, or a booger hanging from a nose hair, or my fly is down, I want you to tell me about it immediately. If I have bad breath, tell me. I'd rather be embarrassed and know it than embarrassed and not know it. I rip on you because I feel that it is my duty. Just ask Perth.

Glad to hear you have such a strong sense of duty. :p

One other thing. I went back and actually wrote down the names of the people who "contributed" to this, and how many posts each made, and there were lots of folks besides me and Onyx making comments about Radar. I also noticed that you jumped right in quite a few times to heighten the effect - like quoting Onyx's remarks so Radar could see them, and it was YOU who reminded me that Radar had called me a "blithering idiot" and it was also you who accused Radar of "spying" on posts under a different name. If you don't like the smell, I suggest you quit stirring the shit.

At least until we had to make the member pictures thread NSFW.

and it was also you who accused Radar of "spying" on posts under a different name

Jesus Christ guys, was I the only person who got the joke about Radar being Spivey? Do you REMEMBER Spivey's posts? It was a joke.

See, watch: "Sometimes Lumberjim logs on as Perry5 just to stir the shit some more..." See how that was humor, because they're obviously different people but on an ironic level there are similarities?

It's like every time Radar is involved in a thread the rest of you lose all sense of perspective.

I don't remember Spivey's. In fact I don't remember a Spivey. I never heard the name before Jim mentioned it.